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Post by Arthur Dayne on Nov 7, 2014 18:41:45 GMT
The guy I spoke with calls himself "John". I can't comment on their Katanas since I didn't buy them and haven't read anything to indicate any issues with safety yet. Tis a pity the Jian turned out like this, this review could've been hilariously positive rather than negative. Thanks for reading
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2014 18:50:36 GMT
Never heard of him. From what I was told before I read this post was that Li told me that there has been a change of staff recently. Either way, I'll tell them a friend of mine got a rat tail tang which is completely unacceptable.
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Post by Arthur Dayne on Nov 7, 2014 18:53:46 GMT
You should tell him "Arthur Dayne got a rat tail tang and died at the Tower of Joy"
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2014 18:59:31 GMT
Haha! Will do! I'll let you know what li says after I speak to him about it.
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Post by naruto on Nov 13, 2014 10:31:06 GMT
Thanks for this review. I should have read this before I made my purchase with Lyueswords. So regret ! they lied about a katana with Sanmei blade construction , which turns out to be a simple mono steel blade. by claiming it is high quality, I realised that the cutting edge is not even straight. it can cut and can see it as a knife but not a katana. quite sad about it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 16:52:27 GMT
Sanmai and Honsanmai are different. Sanmai isn't neccesarily bad, through hardened blades tend to turn out very well with modern steels and good heat treatment. I think the sanmai part is just a name they are using for folded monosteel, which is purely cosmetic and could produce flaws in the metal. I personally like it though as long as it is also clay tempered. I think if you want a laminated blade, definitely stick with just the kobuse. It isn't relatively difficult so I trust it.
What I woukdnt trust is the complex laminations like shihozume and soshu kitae. Those are very complex to get the right combination of metals that will work well together, and having the right welding flux to get the metals to stick and also removing oxygen deposits between the metals.
I believe a lot of sellers outright lie about it. Even ronin katana and there infamous soshu kitae blades. If you want are sure properly laminated blade, order a tamahagne nihonto.
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Post by Arthur Dayne on Nov 13, 2014 18:15:02 GMT
Urgh, I feel bad that you wasted money on a sword that was advertised as "Sanmei" but was actually mono steel. I'm not going to waste words telling you it's not so bad etc etc, you got lied to by a dishonest vendor and they got your money. I believe there was another negative feedback for TCKRUAN88's Ebay profile a while back concerning a blade that was advertised as Sanmei but was proven to be mono steel too. Thanks for sharing your experiences about their Not-so-Sanmei Katana-that is really Monosteel. Whether or not their intention was to deceive is irrelevant, you were lied to and they profited
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 21:58:44 GMT
A sanmai katana isn't a laminated blade. A honsanmai is. Also, if some ordered a kobuse and claimed they could see the folded lines running through the hamon, that doesn't mean it isn't laminated. The softer core shouldn't be exposed running to the hamon.
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Post by naruto on Nov 14, 2014 8:19:37 GMT
I Know there may be different perception to terminology. but when I complained to lyueswords, they didn't deny it, they were trying to refund me and buy their way out to maintain a good feedback. so what I am saying is , they knew what the meant by sanmei is actally a lamination blade. By they way... if I am to check if a claim-to-be kobuse blade is genuine, the only way is to cut the blade into half and see if there is a core???
if yes, I am going to try to do this destructive test when my bonus arrives.
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Post by Arthur Dayne on Nov 14, 2014 15:44:06 GMT
Hah they tried to buy my good feedback too with a very tiny bit of money, and wouldn't cooperate when I asked for full refund and return instructions so Ebay CS got involved (full story in topic posts). Honsanmai, Sanmai,fourmai, fivemai, full tang, rat tail, dinosaur tail, a millionmai doesn't matter. This vendor mislabels their product and sells you things that aren't as advertised.
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Post by johnwalter on Nov 14, 2014 16:33:50 GMT
Thanks for the warning Arthur.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2014 1:42:27 GMT
You posted the same comment on 2 posts.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2014 1:46:56 GMT
Naruto you are probably quite right in the way you approached it. They could get done for supposedly false advertising but they could argue that it was in the description what it actually is. EBay and PayPal will rarely ever take a sellers side though which is why 99.9 percent of vendors will not argue with you and just ask for the sword to be returned and issue a refund.
Please get the blade tested. Would be very interesting to find out.
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Post by naruto on Nov 15, 2014 9:54:50 GMT
so what brand or from which dealer you get yours from? any suggestion.? heard that Bugei is a good dealer and have a strong reputation .
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2014 15:11:04 GMT
I've never owned a Bugei but I think you would be pretty much guaranteed an amazing piece! If you have the funds I'd definitely consider getting one from them.As far as I know, they use Hanwei blades and professional customise the katana.
I tend to stick with Hanwei and various custom made blades from longquan. I never purchase a production piece from eBay. Hanwei are the only production swords i will buy now as there fittings and quality control tend to be good most of the time. Still, I've had issues with katanas and waks from them as well.
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on Nov 16, 2014 0:03:15 GMT
wow what a cluster ^%$&
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Post by naruto on Nov 16, 2014 11:53:23 GMT
Hi
i heard Hanwei made some decent high end swords, but not sure about entry levels. I come across a Mantis , it is good geometry, wide blade , things are decent but balancing isn't too good it is too heavy. btw, i think most ebay seller from china , they are from longquan according to consignment note. have you tried Cold Steel? , well i think most of the swords, they all can cut and have their sustainability to a certain level, but i am more a fan to a sword which as a better artistic value, like good geometry, balance( not to heavy at blade tip) enble continuous strikes, cutting edge straight.
coz those swords i got from Lyueswords and ryanswords, they can cut but the cutting edge is like a wave. not a very good finish.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2014 15:37:00 GMT
Different strokes for different folks. Everyone likes different appearances of swords and balance. I think the praying mantis has a beautiful appearance and if I found a good deal to buy it I would snag it in a heartbeat. Most people I've spoke to tend to like the Oni katana more, but I don't fancy the large tsuka and the weight.
It will certainly stand out among most katanas though due to the sheer heft of it, which in itself can be appealing.
As for cold steel, I'm sure Huanuo forge makes there blades. If you didn't know, that's Paul Chen's brother who has his own forge in China like Fred I think.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2015 0:06:25 GMT
Looks like Ronin katanas European sword has a WELDED TANG that snapped on a water bottle.
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