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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2008 0:49:14 GMT
I was looking at sword pictures on Flickr, and found this. I'd seen it before, but never really looked at it. This is the sword that our dear Mr. Washington carried when he commanded his armies in battle, and later gave it to his son. I thought the lack of a guard was interesting, and the blade shape seems a little...off for most western sabers I've seen. www.flickr.com/photos/mario517/153316702/ |
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Post by alvin on Mar 3, 2008 1:10:14 GMT
Hey elbandito. From what I've read about this sword, while it is a sabre, it's what was called a hunting sword. Evidently, many gentlemen carried them as civilians, and as officers during the Revolution. This one was made for Washington by John Bailey of Fishkill, NY.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2008 1:24:03 GMT
This one was made for Washington by John Bailey of Fishkill, NY. Well, Whaddya know! My great great great great great grandfather was a swordsmith  |
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Post by hotspur on Mar 3, 2008 1:25:34 GMT
Most often refered to as cuttoe and not uncommon during the 18th century. Quite literally, a big knife. A good many have a sharpened back edge for a few inches of the blade. Also occasionally refered to as hangers but that name (to me) implies a d guard and also often a shell shaped counterguard. Also quite related to the German hirschfangers, which appeared in great variety over a few centuries as well. Green tinted ivory was popular, as well as horn or antler. I tend to think of only similar to this form pictured as cuttoe but it is a fairly generic term. Good stuff. That one has a fair number of articles written about it.
As martial a man as Washington is thought to have been, iirc, he had to borrow a sword when appearing for his first inaguration in a simple brown suit he had worn travelling to the occasion. There was also an innagural sword presented him the second time around.
There are some reasonable antiques of this form that surface between $500 and $1000.
Cheers
Hotspur; I've always liked these quite a bit
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2008 6:45:09 GMT
I'm very surprised. I did not expect a sword like that. I expected a proper Smallsword.
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Mar 3, 2008 7:10:22 GMT
so did I ..... either way it's a really nice sword
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2008 12:45:55 GMT
I'm very surprised. I did not expect a sword like that. I expected a proper Smallsword. Don't worry, he had at least three of those! I will try to get some pics up later. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2008 22:24:29 GMT
From Neumann's Swords and Blades of the American Revolution
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Mar 3, 2008 22:40:32 GMT
very nice they sure don't make'em like they used too
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2008 0:23:08 GMT
Wow! Thanks for sharing that. I'm a huge fan of the founding father's. +1 Karma for you elbandito!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2008 0:33:58 GMT
Here is a shot of the hilt of Washington's hunting sword:
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2008 6:48:34 GMT
wow, it seems George Washington was just as much a sword-nut as any of us.
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Mar 4, 2008 22:49:07 GMT
back in his day there was a distict possablity of actual getting in a sword fight
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2008 20:05:12 GMT
back in his day there was a distict possablity of actual getting in a sword fight True; but would you want to be the poor sucker that had to challenge him? If you lose, you die. If you win, the American people rise up and lynch you. ;D |
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Mar 6, 2008 9:22:25 GMT
true win or lose your still screwed than again george washington started out as a major in the BRITISH ARMY thats how he came to this country
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Post by hotspur on Mar 6, 2008 15:36:35 GMT
true win or lose your still screwed than again george washington started out as a major in the BRITISH ARMY thats how he came to this country Sorry, that is incorrect. He was born in the colony of Virginia. www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/gw1.htmlAs to some other thoughts presented. This was not a man much enamored of high society, playing dress up or some swash buckling duelist. Reading excerpts from his journal reveals a pretty quiet homebody. He was rather harsh as a military commander (which was somewhat expected of him) but there are no accounts of hm engaging in swordplay of any type. I am more of a (somewhat read) opinion that he regarded wearing of a sword more obligatory than with drawing blood in mind. Cheers Hotspur; yes, he did serve in the British army |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2008 19:48:00 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2008 21:30:53 GMT
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Mar 6, 2008 22:44:57 GMT
I like that sword looks really cool I wonder if kult of athena has it cheaper
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2008 0:29:58 GMT
I can't find it at KOA, but 150 isn't bad just the same...
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