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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Aug 5, 2013 6:43:48 GMT
The Bowie kinfe is considered the national knife of the United States. What is the knife of your country.
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Post by Shrugger on Aug 5, 2013 6:55:13 GMT
PS: Whaddaya want? Messer means knife, after all!
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Post by Talon on Aug 5, 2013 7:15:27 GMT
.A group of northern folk who shall remain nameless brought over the Seax when they came over to get frisky with the nuns and nick a few candle holders.
We don't from what i'm aware have a real national knife like the Bowie or the Kukri.
The Sykes Fairbairn i suppose would be the closest to a national knife for England.
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Post by Lukas MG (chenessfan) on Aug 5, 2013 11:40:32 GMT
Now THAT's a knife Yeah, indeed, if there is something like a typical German knife design, that's the one. Reminds me that I have yet to make/own one...
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Post by Jussi Ekholm on Aug 5, 2013 12:51:41 GMT
Here in Finland we have puukko. There are historically different puukko types that were developed in certain regions. I have a good book about Finnish knives and bayonets, and there are couple more expensive and through books. I believe a type that would be popular near Tampere where I currently live, would be Toijala puukko. It's the nearest of this city that I have been able to find. That puukko type is considered to be one of the nicest looking types. But Finland is fairly big country by area and various regions had their own subtypes of puukko. Puukko collecting is much more popular in Finland than sword collecting. I've seen some high quality modern puukkos and met few top knifesmiths, it's very intresting subject too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 14:23:26 GMT
Not that I would argue much but I am curious as to whom feels that to be the case. Is there a source for this from media or a book or is it just your personal feeling. Others might argue the point for at least half a dozen types of knives but Bowie as a label does get the most recognition. Two more Bs for instance Barlow Bayonet Barlows and Bayonets have far outnumbered bowies but then again, what is a Bowie anyway? Some will say both some bayonets and barlows have bowie blades.
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Aug 5, 2013 14:53:52 GMT
A bayonet is not really a knife, A pocket knife as a national knife. I think if you ask most american, what the national knife is they are going to say a bowie, it was designed here. I am talking about the big bowies not jsut a knife with a bowie style blade.
Talon I might be wrong but didn't the saxons bring the seax to England first.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 15:02:19 GMT
I would think that fairly shallow thinking considering all the knife bayonets that have "bowie" blades Again, I am not really arguing that a bowie is not a most familiar concept and recognition but rather I was asking what the source for your premise is. It is apparently your assertion that most Americans would click bowie on a poll. That's fine. Just wondering how you came to the conclusion. Still, what is a bowie if not just a large knife of many blade shapes? Attachments:
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Aug 5, 2013 15:42:04 GMT
Like I've already said the bayonet you show is a bowie style pattern not a bowie knife. A bowie knife is a large knife, yes it is a large knife with many diff shapes, mainly thinbks to england send over so many diff. knives labling them as bowies.
Don't known why you want to start a conflict over this. Where are you from. If the USA what do you consider the national knife.
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Aug 5, 2013 15:44:58 GMT
Aussies know.....
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Post by Talon on Aug 5, 2013 16:58:54 GMT
That's a hotly debated question.The original sand bar knife is described as a butcher knife with a blade of 9 inches and plain wood handle slabs.More akin to the trade butcher and skinner knives than a knife you would recognize as a Bowie knife today. Makes sense to me as butcher knives,skinners and the Cartouche were the most common and Jim Bowie was a hunter The Bowie has gone through a lot of variations over the years (actually it's a fascinating study and what the first Bowie looked like will probably never be settled) This knife was rumoured to have been given to Edwin Forrest by Bowie and is supposedly a reproduction (or the original depending on what you read, of the sand bar knife,though it's a tad too long with a 12 inch blade.I think this is an accurate picture of the original Jim Bowie knife,certainly more accurate than a Musso style bowie. I don't think anyone would have any issues seeing the Bowie as the knife of the US though. The Barlow knife is an English invention that was just very popular in the States. Yes i think you're right.I threw that line up as a gag,but yes Seax is Anglo Saxon for knife. Attachments:
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Aug 5, 2013 17:34:48 GMT
Yes I enjoyed the gag, just was making sure I had my history right
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 21:14:10 GMT
Please read the first sentence here. You did not previously to this reply mention either bowie pattern bayonets or any knife type bayonet for that matter. You simply discarded all bayonets as "not knives" by writing "A bayonet is not really a knife" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M9_bayonetWait a minute now, I have started both previous posts by agreeing with you and not really wanting to argue the point but asking your source or reasoning for labeling a "bowie" as the national knife. In my second reply pretty much saying "have a nut" or "whatever floats your boat" but I think I have been a lot more courteous about it all. Where in the US... hmmm... where in the states haven't I lived at one time or another.
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Post by Timberwolf on Aug 12, 2013 5:54:07 GMT
But ... but ... but ... What about the Buck Special or the Ka-Bar? (Now I'm jus' bein' ornery over here. That's what happens when ya mix Spanish and German and Italian and Scots/Irish together with a lil' bit of redneck!) :twisted:
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on Aug 12, 2013 6:32:14 GMT
No problem I go by the James Black bowie knife.
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Post by templar on Aug 12, 2013 15:34:04 GMT
Timberwolf: Dear Lord what a combination :roll: ; I thought my being Calabrese/Italian-Irish was bad enough. :lol:
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Post by Timberwolf on Aug 12, 2013 15:51:11 GMT
Hiyas, Templar. Yeah, sometimes I look at my lineage and think that the Lord does have a sense of humor. No wonder we don't do huge family reunuions, it'd be a free-for-all when the beer started flowing! Sorry, Fallen. I'm just givin' ya a lil' ribbin'. Of the dozen or so "purely American knives", I'll agree that the Bowie in whatever form is the dominant one, it's the first that usually comes to mind. I'll stop jackin' yer thread now, partner.
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Post by Miekka on Sept 13, 2013 15:34:01 GMT
The question of what America's national knife is an interesting one. To most foreigners, I think three knives would come to mind if asked: the bowie knife in general, the KA-BAR Marine fighting knife, and maybe the Buck 110 if considering folding knives.
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Post by john570 on Sept 13, 2013 21:01:50 GMT
For America the Bowie knife and I will add the tomahawk as a bonus.
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Post by john570 on Sept 13, 2013 21:07:29 GMT
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