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Post by uchiha998 on Feb 18, 2013 23:39:51 GMT
Then the budget would actually be the way to go. I found the stats on the budget 1095 . Sori=1.375" Seems crazy much for me. but everything else seems to be what i like. if the budget cant take the harder targets its probably gonna be the better choice for me and like $100 cheaper. The nagasa is 28" and POB is 6" that is higher than on pretty much anything else of looked at it. Perhaps if it i could get one with a bo-hi it would be better. I was almost sold on it until i saw that POB. I already wasnt crazy about the sori.
I check out that KC 26" but it doesn't seem to have appealing fittings. It doesnt have hamon being a TH blade either. I like real hamons but it doesn't mean I won't go for a TH katana. But between the KC 26" and The Ronin Pro 26". I would take the Ronin right now. The POB on the Ronin Pros looks amazingly low.
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Feb 18, 2013 23:56:14 GMT
The fittings on the KC are plain, but high quality. It also has a hamon, albeit faint. 5160 is a very tough steel, but shows a poor hamon. The handling of the KC is far better than any of the others as well. Very responsive. Pretty heavy sori, though. I forgot about that.
1 and 3/8" is a lot. Most katana you see have tori sori, that is, they have an even ark throughout the sword. These are koshi, which means that the curve is more significant near the tsuba. 6" POB is indeed farther than most of his others, but not outlandish. Blade heavy, though, for sure.
Can't go wrong with a Ronin! I love mine.
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Post by uchiha998 on Feb 19, 2013 1:39:29 GMT
The KC 26" is TH correct? it has been my understanding for a while that only DH blades could have a true hamon. so it an acid etch then i'm assuming. unless i've misunderstood something about a TH blade.
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Feb 19, 2013 4:15:05 GMT
The KC is DH. 5160 just shows a faint hamon. The polish is also not high, so giving it an acid etch can bring out the existing hamon.
You can indeed put a false hamon on a TH blade via wire brushing or acid etching. A true hamon is an artifact of the DH process, so you are correct in your belief that only a real DH blade has a real hamon. It takes a huge amount of very skilled, very expensive effort to correctly polish a blade to bring out the hamon, and etching can be a low-cost alternative.
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Post by uchiha998 on Feb 19, 2013 15:03:55 GMT
So the KC 26" is a DH blade. That explains why your post orginally confused me. When i looked at on the website I dont recall it saying anything about being DH. Usually these days it seems like when a blade is DH, it is well advertised by vendor or manufacturer since everybody loves a real hamon. not saying everyone values them but who doesnt like the look of true hamon?
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Post by uchiha998 on Feb 19, 2013 17:06:34 GMT
So the more & more I see of the Budget 1095, the more I like it. This has not been true of any other sword I have been intrested. It seems most people believe the Ronin Dojo Pro is the thougher blade & being TH this is likely true. However when I watched DaoDaoChen's video of Beater, im convinced it can take more than enough punishment for me.
Since i will not be whacking it against metal garbage cans and metal rods. I think the will be fine for me. I have been martial arts all my life. Some of the styles i have been studying longest are kenjutsu styles. so Ive been training extensively doing katas and sort of flashly little tricks to help improve overall handling. I still wanna be able to some of those quick blade flips and spins.
So basically what I wanna ask now is how well does the beater handle? Im sure some of u you say it handles perfectly but with that huge koshi sori and a balance point of 6" im worried it wont handle as well many other swords im looking at right now. which sucks cuz the is the sword that ive really been excited about.
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Feb 19, 2013 18:11:11 GMT
I'm not sure how it handles, as I've not been able to get one yet. I also don't know how that type of sori affects balance, as it will handle different than others.
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Post by Lord Cobol on Feb 19, 2013 21:14:10 GMT
Anyone curious about KC heat-treatment & metal should check out their FAQ www.kriscutlery.com/faq.htmlAt the top the describe metal & country of origin (so, for example, if the specs say 5160 you know it it made in Philippines) At the end they describe heat-treatment. Short version: single-edge is DH, double-edge TH.
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Post by uchiha998 on Feb 20, 2013 14:46:12 GMT
This is what i dont like about sword buying. I live in Atlanta. You would think a city as large as this(metro area included) would have 1 place i could go actually shop for japanese-style swords. yet i have found none. One of the most important attributes of any sword is how it handles. Buy online there is no way to tell this before an order is placed. & this concerns me. which is why i like to see the full stats on any sword. Problem is many swords do not have specs posted or incomplete specs. The ronin dojo pro do not give me a sori measurement. Many other swords dont show any. Getting away from Ronin and . I have been looking at some of the ebay vendors and Munetoshi. The feedback ive been given so far on Munetoshi is meh, go with Ronin or . Which so far is my own thought as well. However, since i have the time I wanna look more into this. It seems all the Ebay Vendors give u lots of choices on tsubas and koshirae. Itomaki & sageo as well. So thats nice but overall it will be the swords handling & cutting preformance that will sell me. So are Hauwei, Munetoshi, or someone like sjsswords or ryanswords up to par with Hanwei, Ronin & in the same price ranges? even close? What about Handmadeswords.com?
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Post by OttoVonFaart on Feb 20, 2013 15:45:00 GMT
These guys are located near you... you might want to give 'em a call and see if you can do a hand's on browse. True Swords True Site Corporation 2146 Roswell Road Suite 108 Marietta, Georgia 30062 Please note that our older "2100" mailing address is being phased out. If you recently shipped something to that address, do not worry, we will receive your shipment. Phone Number 1-540-520-8330
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Post by uchiha998 on Feb 20, 2013 16:54:12 GMT
Thanks man that is really closed to me? I will certainly go down there take a look. If they will allow it that is. Is this the same true swords as the website we all know on this forum, trueswords.com? Either way, i will be going down there. thank you.
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Post by uchiha998 on Feb 20, 2013 18:06:23 GMT
Ive been thinking about the next level lately as well but the website has like no info on it. I wondered if the fittings are upgraded. I like that the blade doesn't seem to have as much sori either. but there are no specs listed on the page it doesn't tell me what the fittings or tsuba is made from. Oh, and i've been meaning to ask are the fittings on the Ronin Pro better than the budget beater? The Ronin has all iron fittings looks more traditonal but are they better quality the the alloy & brass the has. Ugh the lack of info on some of these vendor/manufacturer websites is driving me batshit.
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Post by OttoVonFaart on Feb 20, 2013 19:10:21 GMT
Send an e-mail to Ricky and ask about his stuff. He'll give you straight info, specs, etc. He's also a SBG forum member read his posts in the Vendors area.
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