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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2008 4:03:39 GMT
Of all the oakeshott typologies, which one do you think would make for the most effective thruster? I'm guessing XV, but then again i'm not anywhere near an expert in this area. Also any reccomendations for excellent thrusting swords in our price range? ~Jesse
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Post by YlliwCir on Jan 23, 2008 9:44:08 GMT
I have a hanwei hand and a half thats an excellent thruster in our price range, tho I got one coming that will probably be a better thruster but out of our range.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2008 13:43:43 GMT
wouldn't like the gladii be good thrusters but if your talking about midevil swords no clue
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2008 13:55:44 GMT
Have you read the Darksword Gothic review? www.swordsofvalor.com/DSAGothic.htmlAfter the cut and the thrust test I performed a hard flex test. It returned to true with ample spring. So what you have here is a sword that is stiff enough to puncture 17 gauge steel yet still flexes like a bow and returns to true!Make sure you also watch the video!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2008 13:55:48 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2008 14:35:19 GMT
What are you looking for? Specific types of swords, or particular swords? Also, as you can see in that thread above, it depends on what your thrusting. Armour or cloth.
Against armour, anything from XV to XVIII seems to perform well. A stiff rondel dagger would be even better. Against cloth, it depends on the sharpness of the edges of the point, not the acuteness.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2008 15:00:02 GMT
I would have to say that i'd be using it against neither metal or cloth, more likely than not wood would be my target of choice, so i think that the stiffer blade would probably be the more effective of the two. I.E. the dark sword 15th century gothic. I'm also looking at some kind of an armor piercing weapon, like the kind that was designed specifically for finding the weak spots in an opponents plate mail. ~Jesse
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2008 15:14:30 GMT
Ric, Ordering a new sword? Do tell.. Wow, the DSA 2 hander gothic is beast! Also, Vya that's a really intriguing article. It definitely explains in plain english that you need more than an acute point in order to an effective thruster against lighter, albiet' thicker targets. ~Jesse
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2008 15:14:36 GMT
Well, if your looking for a sword under $300, I'd recommend either the Black Prince from Gen2 (XVa) or the Hanwei Hand and a Half,(XVIII) like RicWilly said. Either will probably fulfill all your thrusting needs.
For a weapon specifically designed to penetrate the gaps in armour, then those to might work, but I'd prefer a poleaxe or a rondel dagger. Either rip the guys armour off with the pole axe, then stab him with the point, or tackle him to the ground, and stab him in the eye slit with the rondel. Those were two of the better methods of taking down an armoured knight. Add to the fact that he would be very-well trained in both hand-to-hand combat and swordsmanship, then you can see why a man in full plate was nigh-invincible.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2008 15:19:25 GMT
true,
Also, as for the generation 2 black prince, i know that clyde has recently had many of blades trimmed down in order to make them closer to the historical replicas on which they are based, however is the black prince still the ultra heavy-duty beater that it has always been?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2008 15:40:32 GMT
Well, Tsafa's been using his now Black Prince on his tire pell for sometime now, and he hasn't had any complaints. Good as new, I think he said.
Anyways, they are still very well built. As long as you aren't excessively abusing them, it should be fine. Cutting thick trees and chopping wood I would consider abuse. But that applies to all swords.
I'm actually thinking of getting it as a nice, cheap XVa. The only thing putting me off is the metal discs in the grip, but I'd redo the grip wrap anyways and cover them up.
If you do get one, I'd like to hear your impressions.
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Post by Brian of DBK on Jan 23, 2008 15:40:47 GMT
I recommend the DSA Gothic as well. A DSA blade with that kind of blade taper is ideal for thrusting, plus it's demonstrated quite nicely doing just that. What more can you ask for?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2008 15:42:59 GMT
Right, I completely forgot about the Gothic. It would be a good choice too. They're all good swords, it just depends on what style you like.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2008 18:13:56 GMT
If you want a good thruster, you can't go wrong with XVa, XVII, XXa... XVIIIa are also excellent thrusters... You just have to find a model that you like and that you can afford.
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Post by YlliwCir on Jan 23, 2008 21:48:34 GMT
wouldn't like the gladii be good thrusters but if your talking about midevil swords no clue Ahh, Xana, gladii are indeed good thrusters. I like em a lot. Unfortunately they tend to be disreguarded by most folks and treated like unloved stepchildern. Hell, it's almost like they aren't even swords at all, like they weren't used by one of the most successful organizations ever. It really bites my ass sometimes. ;D Okay, I'm done.
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Post by rammstein on Jan 23, 2008 22:34:13 GMT
I have to disagree that the types XV and XVIII are the best thrusters. My vote goes to the type XXa edit, seems luka got it ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2008 22:55:06 GMT
Why would you give the nod to the XXa over the XV?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2008 23:11:45 GMT
Probably because it's like a greatsword version of the XV?
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Post by rammstein on Jan 24, 2008 0:42:18 GMT
The reinforced tip on those things were positively wicked.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2008 2:44:51 GMT
Sounds like a good enough reason. I'm not really familiar with the XX/XXa Type, which is why I asked. I would have gone with XV, but I'll have to look into the XXs some more.
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