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Post by Iridionprime on Jan 8, 2013 21:34:35 GMT
Is this thing peened or threaded? KOA says that the sword has a threaded tang whereas this review says the sword is peened : www.sword-buyers-guide.com/germa ... sword.html Anyone have a definitive idea as to whether or not this thing is peened?
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Post by Vilhelma on Jan 8, 2013 23:11:49 GMT
This review claims it to be threaded. www.swordforum.com/forums/showth ... tard-Sword It appears to be held together by a threaded system- pommel just pops on it and screws right on the tang. Mayhaps the reviewer missed the word? He said, if it becomes loose, it'll be an easy fix. I'd like to believe he meant 'threaded', considering you could just apply more loctite if it were threaded.
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Post by Marc Kaden Ridgeway on Jan 9, 2013 1:24:18 GMT
Well , I am the reviewer... I did miss a word ... I said the hilt screws on and should have said pommel.
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Post by MOK on Jan 9, 2013 7:46:18 GMT
Mine at least has a threaded tang and a pommel nut.
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Post by Beowulf on Jan 10, 2013 7:43:42 GMT
It is threaded, with pommel nut. More accurately, the one I have which is a newer run from last year had no threads in the pommel if I recall, but was held together with the little donut-style pommel nut. What this means is you really need to epoxy the pommel in place once you clean off all the epoxy contact area to make a good bond.
Further, the handle on mine wasn't very impressive. Windlass handles are not very good sometimes already, but this one was really just a shaped pine wood dowel- that is really the closest descriptor I can come up with.
To me despite these problems the sword was worth rescuing with some TLC. It is a good weapon. I would point out though that this is a "smiter". This is a super heavy little weapon, which is what I wanted, and is unusual for this period and design. So this needs some work if it is expected to become something other than a really nice wallhanger, but it is a unique and very stout weapon.
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Post by Kataphractos on Jan 13, 2013 6:47:26 GMT
I love the handle and crossguard on this weapon. Wish it were 10" longer, though.
Some guy over at MyArmoury took one of these and made it into a hunting sword. Can't find the thread at the moment, but he cut one of the crossguard rings off, took a lot of material off of the blade to make the end into a spear point, and in the end got a rather badass sword out of it.
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Post by MOK on Jan 13, 2013 13:05:46 GMT
You do know the original is about an inch shorter, right?
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Post by Luka on Jan 13, 2013 14:44:01 GMT
Are you sure??
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Post by MOK on Jan 13, 2013 15:18:36 GMT
Oh yeah. The original is Wallace Collection A477. From the Wallace catalogue, via SFI: Compare with the listed stats for the Windlass reproduction: overall length 38 3/4", blade length 30" and width 2 1/8", weight 3 lb. 10 oz. Windlass took some significant liberties with the reproduction, including the shape of the siderings and their version lacking any sort of distal taper (which explains the weight difference). It's not a particularly good repro, to be honest, but a damn fine sword in its own right.
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Post by Kataphractos on Jan 13, 2013 16:09:44 GMT
Just saying, it would look great as a 48"-50" sword
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Post by MOK on Jan 13, 2013 17:20:29 GMT
Well, sure, though I quite like it the way it is. Of course, you could always swap the hilt components onto a longer Windlass blade...
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Post by Luka on Jan 13, 2013 19:10:10 GMT
That 37 5/8" length in the Wallace catalouge is just the blade length. I've seen that sword when I was in London. Wallace catalouge often lists only blade lengths. www.facebook.com/media/set/?set= ... =3&theater
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Post by MOK on Jan 13, 2013 19:49:54 GMT
Seriously? :shock: Huh. Judging by the full photo on the Wallace site - and after a more thoughtful look at the proportions there, I do believe you're right - that would make the original pretty darn close to 10 inches longer. It seems history has vindicated your taste, Kataphractos.
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Post by Luka on Jan 14, 2013 0:31:38 GMT
Yes, look at this famous sword for example, they say the length is 85.7cm and that is definitely the blade length only: wallacelive.wallacecollection.or ... sp=T&sp=37
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Post by chuckinohio on Jan 20, 2013 12:15:16 GMT
A GBS that was 10 inches longer would be epic, assuming that they balanced it within reason....................
It figures that Windlass would take a figure as the basis for overall length, when it turns out to be solely a blade measurement. This would be one of those times where proper research would have paid big dividends.
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Post by MOK on Jan 20, 2013 12:51:44 GMT
Not to sound overly critical, because they do make some very nice things and seem to actually listen to and often heed customer feedback, but... The thing is, Windlass simply doesn't do distal taper. I don't think they even know what it is. They use 5mm flat stock and it stays flat until the edge bevels meet at the tip. So in order to keep a 10 inches longer GBS properly balanced you'd have to increase the profile taper considerably or change the hilt components - and that's way more consideration than I've ever seen them put into anything. As it is, it turns out they've produced a genuinely really nice sword, a sweet handling compact bastard, entirely by mistake when trying to reproduce a large two-handed warsword, and had they paid more attention to begin with, the GBS would be a more accurate repro but a much poorer weapon. I just view this as further proof that, despite their undoubtedly good intentions, when it comes to historical swords Windlass Steelcrafts don't actually know what the hell they're doing.
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Post by Luka on Jan 20, 2013 13:54:56 GMT
I agree. No way they would make it in its original size and make it a good handling sword...
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Post by chuckinohio on Jan 20, 2013 16:47:09 GMT
You are both correct of course, I was wishing and dreaming.
'Proper research' and 'Windlass' in the same conversation, what in the hell was I thinking??
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Post by MOK on Jan 20, 2013 16:53:40 GMT
For the record: I'd also love an accurate, full-size reproduction of the A477. It's a very handsome sword.
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Post by Hrafnríkr on Jan 20, 2013 19:46:56 GMT
Anyone remember these?
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