sword pivot point
Dec 25, 2007 9:31:02 GMT
Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2007 9:31:02 GMT
adamsharp said:
You're right, a gauntlet glued to a sword isn't that different from a basket hilt.But it *IS* very different from a hand, wearing a gauntlet, holding a sword.
If you don't think that a sword moves within your grip and independent of the surface skin on your hand, then you're fooling yourself.
None of this makes any logical sense. A basket hilt effects the swords balance and handling. It does so if it riveted, glued, taped, or held in place with hoseclamps. A gauntlet holding a sword "tight" has the same effect. It is mass attached to the end of the sword. It makes no difference how it is attached. If it comes loose or is released, that is another story. While securely attached it is part of the weapon. In fact, even barehanded it make a difference if you hold the sword tight or loose. I'm not talking about a slipped grip. When you squeeze a sword, your bare hand adds to its mass too. If you loosen it up, it is slightly less. I'm not talking about the force being applied by the hand, just the mass of the hand. Does it make a big difference? Probably not. The net impact result seems to be negative due to less acceleration based on my tests. The POB comes back a little.
I have a basket hilt sword. A cold steel. It handles like crap. It weighs less than 3 lbs overall. It has a PoB of about 2 inches in front of the cross. There is, simply put, far too much mass in the blade; The basket hilt, though it does technically bring the PoB back - DOES NOT HELP THE HANDLING CHARACTERISTICS OF THE SWORD AT ALL!. Because the mass of the sword still lies in the blade. The basket's mass is too close to the fulcrum of the resultant lever created when holding the sword to effectively change the dead weight feeling. Now if the entire basket were fused into a solid piece, and that were made into a pommel, that make make a difference - though I have the feeling it'd still not be too great. The idea that baskets serve as pommels is absurd and caused by people whose understanding of sword dynamics tops out at things such as PoB and Overall Weight.
Geez people. Think.
Sword balances, weights and lengths are historically all over the board. Different strokes for different folks.