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Post by Turok on Nov 26, 2012 8:45:42 GMT
I know right?! Isn't Paul Chen or Chen Chao-Po of Hanwei was from Dalian, China? :?: I know there is another Paul Chen (who is unrelated) but he makes katanas and is the owner of Cheness swords...There's also a custom smith named Zhou ZhengWu who is from Longchuan, China and he's been making traditional swords for many years now.
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Post by MakChingYuen on Nov 26, 2012 19:08:16 GMT
What is the reason or benefit of using such a difficult way to forge a sword anyway except for being "traditional"? Why do they choose to do this still when easier method is there for them to choose. 30% out of a batch is very scary, meaning a lot of money can be poured into the toilet like that before a sword is even sold. Basically it's worse than playing stock too. Why did they keep that going in the same way and not change? Anything special about that method they use which modern ways cannot achieve?
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Post by MakChingYuen on Nov 26, 2012 19:22:45 GMT
Cool, so their lighter blade don't flex too, and still is very sharp, cool to know~
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Post by MakChingYuen on Nov 26, 2012 21:37:12 GMT
Well what I mean by flex is really like the wushu style flex, not the normal flex. Even a CS sword flex too if you remember their video test. But what I mean by flex is just the way how you can put the tip on the ground and it goes DOIIINNNNE... and bend like a noodle. Those are really not my cup of tea.. many regular dragonwell swords are like that nowadays when it sold at the $30-$50 range.
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Post by Rafael on Nov 28, 2012 13:48:37 GMT
The Zhou zhengwu swords look pretty nice and have good reputation. Each sword model comes in several "blade options" which consist of different styles of lamination and increasingly more amounts of folding. Even the tier 1 stuff is Sanmei and costs around 1500$ for a non folded blade through-hardened and using 1045 steel. Tier 5 stuff has been hand folded to 32000 layers, and uses 1060 steel with differential hardening. For the nuiwedao, which may or may not be typically priced, the cost for a tier 5 was around 7000$. Tier 5 is the only option with DH. The others mosty increase the amount of folding and transition from machine folded to hand folded as they get more expensive. The prices I was quoted was for nuiwedao, might be higher or lower for other swords. Long wait for email response but the English seemed of acceptable quality. www.zhengwusword.com/zw/chinesebladeoptions.htm |
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Post by Daishikaze on Nov 28, 2012 17:01:56 GMT
Zheng Wu can make a great quality sword from 1045 steel? I though 1045 was acceptable but not really something a great sword would be made from.
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Post by Rafael on Nov 30, 2012 2:25:02 GMT
i know what you mean Daishikaze, but thats what his website says lol. all of the other blade otions are made from better steel. You would think for 1500$ he couId just go ahead and use the 1055 steel he uses in most of the other options. to me it would seem insane to pay 1500$ for a 1045 sword. But, as people keep reminding me, repeatedly, the skill of the smith is more important than the type of steel used. While i believe that, i think steel matters too because i have seen the original version of Conan the Barbarian way too many times.
All kidding aside, different steels DO have different properties, he probably does it that way because he knows perfectly well that some steels are better than others, so he offers up the soft stuff on the low end stuff to encourage you to just go ahead and drop another thousand on some 'good' steel
*runs and hides from the hail of rotten vegetables*
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2012 3:36:33 GMT
The 1045 steel sword is just going to be an expensive art sword, as was explained earlier, these are expensive toys for wealthy Chinese collectors, they just show exquisite craftsmanship and fancy techniques of skilled smiths, they are not trying to build battle-ready swords!
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Post by Daishikaze on Nov 30, 2012 6:04:07 GMT
Really? I thought Zhou Zheng Wu wanted to make well crafted battle ready swords that were works of art? I'm sure he can and does so on the higher options, but I would have thought making a good looking but useless sword (for all intents and purposes) was against his principles.
For his low end price point I could get a gorgeous Huanuo blade that is actually fully functional.
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