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Post by Lancelot Chan on Jun 1, 2007 18:18:33 GMT
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Post by rammstein on Jun 1, 2007 18:23:28 GMT
I still think the brescia is the neatest looking one. I've never been a fan of Tinker's hilts...they seem flat and uninspired. I wish I could take the brescia's hilt with no ego's blade - that would make a really cool sword! Thanks for the pictures mate, eye candy as usual
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Post by jpfranco on Jun 1, 2007 18:56:48 GMT
Impressive swords Lancelot Thanks for sharing
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2007 21:01:52 GMT
I've never been a fan of Tinker's hilts...they seem flat and uninspired. I can see why you might see them that way, as I felt the same in the past; however, I've learned to appreciate Tinker's hilt work as more of a modern interpretation of classic designs. Many of Gus's swords strike me the same way. If you look at them in that context, thoroughly modern swords with styling that fuses classic and modern design, you may find that they grow on you, too. Btw, a stunning group of swords, Lance. Thanks for sharing them.
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Post by rammstein on Jun 1, 2007 21:20:16 GMT
Well if it helps, I don't like the looks of gus' swords either ;D. When it comes to looks, I'm really anal. And spoiled from albion. Although I love his sabers
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2007 21:33:59 GMT
That's perfectly cool. Taste and style are immensely personal things. All I'm saying is that you may one day find yourself liking them and seeing them in a new way. You never know.
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Post by ShooterMike on Jun 1, 2007 21:36:10 GMT
Especially if you ever get to put one to some good use. As far as performance goes, the Gus and Tinker blades really rock! Not that Albions don't perform well. Just not quite in the same league.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2007 21:47:01 GMT
I agree... everything I've read online and all those I've spoken to on the subject say that Albions are amazing swords... but Tinker's and Atrims perform better. I've never tested any, but I've handled some Atrims... hard to imagine anything balancing better...
Plus Albions are softer.
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Post by rammstein on Jun 1, 2007 22:03:48 GMT
I respect them as awesome weapons. But I can't bring myself to spend money on something that doesn't look great. Albion's function well in a historical context. Gus and Tinker have the advantage of not being restrained to history - which is why there swords can sometimes out perform albion's. Although I'd have an albion any day
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2007 22:10:15 GMT
I'd rather have an ATrim... among the best in terms of solidity, function, durability, and I rather like the clean lines and the overal aesthetic. Very simple and elegant. Plus... much cheaper than albion... which virtually raises their prices every year... I would've gotten an albion or two by now if all their prices hadn't more or less gone up 50% or more which were already expensive to begin with.
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Post by rammstein on Jun 1, 2007 22:11:41 GMT
Well I want the albion ringeck as seen on my avatar and I'm forcing myself to buy it ;D
What turns me off of atrim is that the tips are all the same bland diamond x-section...
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Post by ShooterMike on Jun 1, 2007 22:14:01 GMT
I totally agree on the Albion pricing. However, I really like them too. And if you have ready cash, there are frequently good deals to be had at the myArmoury Marketplace...ya know.
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Post by ShooterMike on Jun 1, 2007 22:17:17 GMT
Rammstein,
That's not exactly true. Most are diamond cross section. But Gus has some like the DD1404 that are much more historic cutting swords. The DD1404 (on my wall) is almost an exact copy of Ewart Oakeshott's favorite medieval sword, knicknamed "Moonbrand."
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Post by rammstein on Jun 1, 2007 22:19:26 GMT
True, true. The one he just posted in myarmoury with the lenticular x-section is particularly nice, although I could do without the blueing . I'll stick with blueing for guns. On swords it makes things look too modern.
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Post by ShooterMike on Jun 1, 2007 22:22:29 GMT
Which post is that? Can you provide a link please? I would like to see what you are referring to.
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Post by rammstein on Jun 1, 2007 22:23:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2007 23:40:30 GMT
Albion's function well in a historical context. Gus and Tinker have the advantage of not being restrained to history - which is why there swords can sometimes out perform albion's. That's sort of part of what I was trying to point out above. Tinkers and Trims are thoroughly modern performance swords made to provide people with high durability "user" swords, while maintaining the handling charcteristics of historical pieces and capturing the general style of historical versions. When viewed as such, they are quite appealing, even if they aren't dead on copies of originals.
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Post by Lancelot Chan on Jun 2, 2007 5:23:52 GMT
For your information, besides the blades being different, the metal hilt of Albion swords are also significantly softer than those on Tinker and Atrim swords. Perhaps that's the difference between casted metal or ground metal? I've taken a half hearted katana cut with the Brescia's guard before and it notched 2mm wide and 1 mm deep into the quillion arm. Oh yes, I do put those swords in actions. No Enemy, the Brescia Spadona, is the lightest sword that is for speedy combat against shorter, lighter weapons. The need to engage in bind and wind was less and the relatively simple cross guard reflected that. It relies on void and deflection before the opponent's blade comes close. No Dust, the medium weighted sword among the three, is the best thruster and the longest in length as well. It's the stoutest as well. It was designed to be able to take on all kind of melee weapons in unarmored combat environment. Side rings were there to protect the hands better during zwerchau, schielhau, bind and wind so that I can enter the range when I am facing longer weapons. No Ego, the latest sword, is the heaviest one, like a super-charged No Enemy in both offensive and defensive abilities. It cuts the most powerful, featuring the similar edge geometry of No Enemy, but a lot heavier. It thrusts not bad as well, for it's quite stout, though not to the degree of No Dust. It has the best protective ability that it will even shield my thumb when I was using the German thumb grip style. It also allows me to fingering the sword to thrust with longer reach.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2007 6:00:35 GMT
I think that though Atrims are more 'modern' than Albions... from a technical standpoint, with the exception of the threaded pommels, they are historical. They don't fit neatly into oakeshott typologies... but then again most swords don't.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2007 21:42:59 GMT
Pretty nice blades you got there.
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