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Post by lamebmx on Apr 21, 2012 0:40:15 GMT
The folded musashi's really are not worth the extra money unless you really really like the fittings. I found over all it to be on par with their $80 offerings except better fittings. Huawei is a good bet, if you order custom be prepared for a possible wait as with any other import/custom. I found the hamon on my folded musashi to be wider and have more activities than their mono-steel offerings, but I would be sure that would vary vendor to vendor. Given you size and want for a good handling sword, Kris Cutlery 26" will be super peppy (im 5'8" 150lbs). IME plan to learn to straighten if you take on one of your harder targets too soon. Sam H is spot on about folding, to top it off is not even really noticeable until your up close.
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Post by Kumdoalan on Apr 21, 2012 19:34:02 GMT
Where does your search stand right now?...what are we leaning to?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2012 0:21:17 GMT
Sam, yes, I fully understand. I just want it to be like the old swords in that construction method, within my budget and reality. And I do like how it looks. Its part of the whole experience for this one.
I, being a liscenced mechanic, understand the properties of metal and know that some of the T10 and higher steels that we produce today are far superior to even that of the master Turkish or Japanese smiths of yesteryear.
I will be getting a second Katana at a later date. Simple fittings, non folded, but still clay differentially hardened. More of a modern weapon, more optimized.
This one I want to be a folded blade.
Adrian, great point on not customizing too far, I won't go too far! I hadn't thought of that aspect.
And thanx for the numbers on sori and balance point, lenghts, its what I was looking for.
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Apr 22, 2012 1:07:31 GMT
Right on. I can't wait to see what you decide on. One of the great things about this forum is seeing what each person picks for themselves, especially in a custom situation. Have fun with it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2012 1:42:53 GMT
hi. i cant really tell you much from experience as ive only brought one katana before. but im in the same situation buying a tanto. after alot of searching i found this www.aliexpress.com/fm-store/202366. and so i also find he owns this www.j-sword.com and his ebay seller name is asiaswords. to me, this guy reminds me of who i brought my katana from. i recognise the factory name so i think it is. so i feel confident because this katana i brought 5 years ago was great, probably 3x cheaper than any western made katana for the same quality. anyway, anything which you see on his ebay and www.jsword.com site. is just an idea. you can tell him what you want and he'll make it for you. im about to order a mix of these 2 tanto. the blade of this: www.j-sword.com/?product-131.htmlwith the handle and fittings of this www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dl ... 0698141450 im just deciding if i want the double bo-hi or not. you would probably be able to get the exact katana you want. by the way, if you contact him, tell him csharpe357 pointed you his way, then maybe i can get this tanto a little cheaper good luck. ps, i think the ryumon fittings are pretty bad, and that 1060 blade may require constant sharpening to hold an edge for anyone cutting alot.
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Post by Sam H on Apr 22, 2012 4:26:04 GMT
Its "bought" not "brought". If you were truly English you would know that.
Anyway back to the topic at hand - all I have to say about this particular seller is "Buyer Beware!"
As for trusting the recommendations of someone who has only purchased one katana style sword and off ebay nonetheless well that's about as intelligent as trusting me to give you advice on which farm tractor model is the best model for your fields (a topic about which I know next to nothing about!)
Good luck.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2012 5:22:52 GMT
lets can the attitude shall we? i was just offering my thawts. (sp??) so nobody can be truly english who makes a spelling mistake at 5am?? nice logic thar. (sp??) i think you should get out more, i bet you think most english men play equestrian polo, all go to private boarding school and are trained daily in how to pronounce the sentence "hi ho chaps", in that perfect english way.
for your information i can tell you that cutting with that katana was easy. cleanly cutting tatami mats and so on. ive had it for about 6 years, nothings ever came loose or broken with many cuts. occassionaly ive hit something hard by accident. and i can say that things like food cans can be sliced through with no damage. i did chip the edge though once cutting a mattress and hitting a spring, only about a 1mm chip however. there is also a touch of discoloration on the blade due to cutting fruits and plants and not oiling straight after. this was not a clay tempered blade and probably cost about $100 at the time.
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Post by Sam H on Apr 22, 2012 6:03:16 GMT
Wow, I couldn't have hoped for a better elaboration on your expertise (more like lack there of).
Thank you for driving my point home kid.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2012 6:16:03 GMT
can't we all just get along? hehe, sorry I had to. I am still undecided between Sinosword(JKOO sword) and Huawei. And that Handmadesword.com thing too, those look great, and look suspiciously like Huawei. No reply to my email from them. But with thier daily special, its a great price. Sword I want for less money than anyone else.
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Post by Talon on Apr 22, 2012 7:05:50 GMT
you posted that reply at 2.42am uk time (assuming you're in england) if you are english silhouette,can you please be a bit more respectfull when you post,also some of you're ebay links exclude postage to the uk (again i dont know where you're based but i have a strong hunch it isnt the uk)
im also a little concerned about first time posters putting up those type of links,it smells a bit off to me :?
indeed one almost spilled ones pimms on the lawn,i best ring for the head gardener :lol:
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Post by lamebmx on Apr 22, 2012 15:28:06 GMT
cutting with any katana can be easy. You need to know a few more than one sword to make a whole hearted recommendation like that. If nothing ever came loose than you not only did not cut with it, but never bothered to practice with it. Or I suppose its primary construction material is epoxy or resins made to look like a sword. I am sorry sir but your swords do not beat physics.
Who wants to have fun with this quote:
How exactly does on hit a food can on accident? let alone a mattress.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2012 23:19:08 GMT
you know what ive noticed? that there is a little clique on all of these kind of forums who try and force out and be as insulting as possible towards anyone who doesnt say what they want them to say. ie anyone who doesnt support american industry.
the level of paranoia on show is just ridiculous. im not english because i have a spelling mistake, im not english because i reply in the early hours of the morning. my katana is an epoxy resin because it hasnt fallen apart in my hands (HAH!). . please, do you know how anal your being? do you know how utterly fking inbred you sound? how incapable of logical, critical thought you are?? honestly i am deeply considering calling the men in white coats on behalf of all of you, for a psychological evaluation. paranoid schizo's are a danger to society, especially those with a fascination for weaponry.
i was barely even recommending the sword, it was more just a list of my experiences with it, the good and the bad for the benefit of the OP. i think any sane (and honest) person can see this.
i did not hit the mattress by accident, i just forgot about the springs in it. these little things that i have to explain because if i dont i must be 100% fraud just tells me that you are thoroughly disingenuous, your mind is already made up and what i say is irrelevant because you will pick holes in it incessantly, because thats what you want to do.
i havnt insulted any of you or shown any level of disrespect, so dont dare try to accuse me of doing so -especially while you brazenly accuse me of lying about my nationality. (why its such a big deal to you i dont know, i can only assume its because englishmen are generally seen as intelligent and well respected, thus you perceive an englishman recommending a chinese sword as a threat to your marketing efforts, so you MUST try and kick mud on his name to deter people from listening to him)
since joining and making a thread about my new purchase, offering to let you all know what its like when i get it, and offering information to help other people, i have been accused of being a fraud, lying, being chinese, being a salesman, mistaking a 1095 hc katana which cuts tatami for epoxy resin (lol, no really), and so on. all of this and i have only made 7 posts including this one. and you want to accuse me of being disrespectful?
but you know what? i see your game. you want to protect your industry by trying to character assassinate people offering different opinions and experiences. you want to play that game? we can play that game.
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Post by lamebmx on Apr 22, 2012 23:51:16 GMT
I dont know if you noticed this, but 2 of the places recommended to the OP are chinese forged katana. I was referring to the fittings being epoxy or resin based. Which is in no way a bad thing in itself. If you had spent some more time reading, you would have noticed that giving unsolicited links to products is pretty much a faux-pas around here. Frankly, recommending a sword with a carbon content greater than 1060 to a new cutter is really bad form. Sure the 1095 will take and hold a better edge longer, but in the hands of n00b it runs a much higher risk of breaking. The same reason your sword chipped it what will cause it to break easier than a 1060 or 1045 blade. Which is still BS, forgetting there are springs in mattresses is like forgetting which is which between pants and shirts. I am, however, still curious as to how you it the cans, by accident. You blatant, mention me, also paints you as an affiliate. It is very rare vendors or affiliates post in the newbie section helping to choose first swords. I dont know if there is a specific rule per se, but it definitely is an ethical faux pas. As before, I will offer an unbiased review of whatever sword. Make sure to include return shipping for the pieces and know you will have no control over that review other than the sword you put in my hand.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2012 0:13:20 GMT
silhouette, you've just recommended a series of vendors who sell from e-bay or aliexpress, anonymous chinese forges who do no have an established reputation and appear to sell low quality budget items to the general public, hence the reaction you got from forum members, who like to recommend established vendors whose products many of us have seen, tested and reviewed and would recommend.
For new buyers, it is better to purchase from established companies with a well-known name so you know what you're getting in terms of quality, that's why we wouldn't recomemend the vendors you have suggested. Hope this helps clarify the situation.
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Post by Talon on Apr 23, 2012 19:37:23 GMT
7 posts in and this is the response you send silhouette,usually a new member tends to read the board's,get a feel for the place and ease himself in,forgive me for being somewhat skeptical,if you are indeed a genuine sword fan you will find a very welcomming friendly place with this forum,
as for you're links to those vendors,well you as a consumer should be glad that the members here question the quality and price (this is the sword buyers guide) that's what this forum is for,to establish the quality and value of all sword's (and other weapons) regardless of the place of manufacture,
this is not a western rules all and eastern is second class forum
im a euro fan,and i will always say to a new buyer look at the hanwei tinker range (made in china) for more money i would post valiant armoury,a trim,albion or full custom (and that includes western or eastern manufacture)
does that make me anti eastern? i think not!
i am not trying to protect my or anybodie's game,i find this forum to be a wealth of knowledge and expertise,you can research pretty much any modern manufactured sword and you will get a reply on it's quality and finish (and also some genuine antiques) i am not having a rant at you,im simply saying if you truly are genuine then welcome aboard,have fun,learn and be a valued member of this community
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2012 2:56:18 GMT
so, Huawei or Sinosword? Please?
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Post by Adrian Jordan on Apr 24, 2012 4:01:25 GMT
I've seen really great pieces from both. At the moment, I'd say that your chances of success with both is about equal. I'd shoot them both emails listing what you want and then decide on the one that can get you the closest.
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Post by lamebmx on Apr 24, 2012 10:07:25 GMT
My huawei was pretty awesome but I have heard good things about sinosword.
I cant say I have ordered a full custom from either place, but what I have learned on here:
Its not about customizing too far, but being very specific in your request. Down to the last detail and measurement. What you dont supply they will just go with whatever their default/easiest/closest to the work bench/have in bulk and not selling kind of replacement.
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Post by Kumdoalan on Apr 24, 2012 10:58:49 GMT
Appears to be a problem with meds?
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