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Post by Paul on Nov 22, 2012 23:19:21 GMT
I had a sleepless night lastnight thinking about this review & the Viceroy and also the upcoming Principe. Great review bytheway I really liked your no-nonsense take on it  If you get the time, I’d be grateful if you could post your thoughts again on the Viceroy, now that you have had if for a few months. I’d particularly like to hear how it compares with the Crecy you once owned, I have a Crecy and so fully appreciate the comparison Thanks - Paul |
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Post by Crecymar on May 30, 2013 8:07:12 GMT
I'm strongly thinking about purchasing this sword.
I have handle dozens of different oakeshot classified models, I own a Crecy, a Steward and a Vigil and an arms and armor grunwald.
The steward is a wonderfully agile and light dedicated cutter, deadly and feels like heaven in my hands, it can thrust into soft targets but it's a little too flexible for me to trust doing this.
The Crecy is lightning fast and is a superb thruster with decent cutting ability. I really like this sword but would prefer a tad more blade presence.
I wonder, if this viceroy would make up for the slight weakness of these two swords while losing nothing in the process?
I hoping this is the case, because if it is, I will have found the perfect sword for me, bar none.
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Post by William Swiger on May 30, 2013 8:27:26 GMT
Some Canadian is selling one on SFI but will only ship to Canada. He is asking 1200 but will come down as it has been listed there forever.
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Post by Bryan Heff on May 30, 2013 11:21:13 GMT
I also REALLY like the Viceroy. If there was one thing I would change though it would be the pommel. My personal tastes, not a huge fan of that fishtail, I think a disk or wheel pommels would look great on a Viceroy.
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Post by aussie-rabbit on May 30, 2013 11:39:36 GMT
Agreed, I'm not a fan of half wraps either, sure like the sound of the handling  |
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Post by mcapanelli on May 30, 2013 16:09:06 GMT
This was a great sword (No pun intended). I miss it. I received one as a christmas gift from my mother and wife. Before that I never really gave it much thought, after that I'd redefined my view on swords like this. Really a splendid sword which I hold in equal esteem with my old Brescia.
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Post by Valandur on May 31, 2013 4:43:14 GMT
"I live in Italy, theoretically it would be forbidden to own sharp swords like this one..so no outside test cutting even if this sword is worth the jail. Yup. It is definitely a heavy-cutting, heavy-duty sword without any trace of doubt."
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Wow! How would they handle antiques? That just blows me away that you can't even have a sword and can't go out on your property and cut stuff! I guess owning guns is out of the question. I know they have good laws regarding weapons in Finland. I didn't know that Italy was so... Unfriendly toward people that like steel. :shock:
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Post by William Swiger on May 31, 2013 6:14:50 GMT
Wonder if kittenslayer was busted for his swords in Italy and is in the "big house"?
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Post by Paul on May 31, 2013 8:25:52 GMT
There's just something about the Viceroy that I find so appealing and I've always been surprised that more don't have them and there arnt more reviews available. My biggest problem in the future will be choosing between the Viceroy & the Earl.
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Post by mcapanelli on May 31, 2013 13:52:07 GMT
What do they do with the swords when they seize them? Does anybody know?
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Post by mcapanelli on Jun 1, 2013 13:10:25 GMT
I've owned both. If your looking for esthetics get the Earl. There's way more going on with the blade than pictures can relate. If you want a great all around war sword, get the Viceroy. I feel the Viceroy is extremely underrated. It has just enough presence to let you know your cutting with a big sword but not enough to sacrifice agility. Its hard to explain till you hold one.
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Post by Paul on Jun 1, 2013 21:31:49 GMT
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Post by Paul on Jun 1, 2013 22:06:23 GMT
wtf, I copied this link from myarmory and posted it here, then somehow facebook is showing that im recommending this sale???
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Post by Deepbluedave on Jun 1, 2013 22:38:40 GMT
I kind of like the antiqued parts, takes away some of the horror that is the fistail pommel on this sword, I emailed Albion a year or so ago, asking if they would make me a custom one up with a scent stopper pommel but they said can't do it. It is such a great looking blade though just a shame about the pommel.
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Post by Paul on Jun 1, 2013 23:34:12 GMT
This sort of thing surprises me, a business turning down money and refusing to do what is seemingly a simply change, business must be going better than I think. But I'm sure they refuse the custom work under the guise of changing the researched characteristics of the sword.
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Post by William Swiger on Jun 2, 2013 7:10:56 GMT
My only problem is folks selling these swords close to full price give or take a couple hundred. If I really wanted one, I would just pay the extra couple hundred for a new one. They can sell them for what they want and that is alright.
Many of these sellers bought the swords before the last or next to the last price increase and are looking to make all their money back or a profit.
Next up we might see some A&A swords on the used market.
I always love when they say in their ads that I am asking this much but a new one would cost you this much.
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Post by mcapanelli on Jun 2, 2013 15:09:02 GMT
I think that statement is geared towards newer collectors that aren't aware of 2006 Albion prices, when most of these swords were purchased. To be honest, I've made a profit once and a while off discontinued stuff, but only out of necessity (Rolling in to a much more expensive purchase) and even then I try to be reasonable.
With that I'm with you in buying a new one if the price gap is only $200 or so dollars. In the case of the aged one we're talking a $500 difference in a new one so it's not that bad areal, but it also depends on when he purchased the sword. If it was in 2006, he's making about $200 on the deal if I recall correctly. I'd bargain with him if I had the scratch, its a nice looking sword.
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Post by William Swiger on Jun 2, 2013 15:48:43 GMT
Agreed. Discontined models like The Valkyrja would be worth it for me. I do not have any issue with someone selling a sword for whatever price they want. If it sells - good for them. Like you said if the price is not that far off from a new one, I would be inclined to buy a new one.
On the Viceroy for sale, he is asking $1,400.00 and a new base model without wire and antiquing is $1,650.00. For me with the Vet discount, the Viceroy would cost me $1,485.00 from Albion.
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