LeMal
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Post by LeMal on Jan 10, 2012 5:59:41 GMT
www.coldsteel.com/newitems.htmlI know there's a few I'm looking to give a whirl. The polypro buckler for waster work, the micro Samburu for hunting, the Viking Axe. But especially the Shashqua and French Officer's Saber. (Still no indication they'll start offering bare blades though. Too bad, since their biggest liability on Euros, to me, is the screw-on pommels, but I love the blades per se on many. Oh well.)
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Jan 10, 2012 6:20:50 GMT
Holy semprini, a shashqua? I actually suggested they make one almost a year ago; it's even the highest rated comment on their 1796 LC video.
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Post by SanMarc on Jan 10, 2012 8:15:49 GMT
They have some one else make the swords, they do not make them..... In fact I dont know what they make as in the past some of their knives were made by Cammilis.
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Post by Miekka on Jan 10, 2012 8:32:20 GMT
To my knowledge, Cold Steel does not make any knives "in house". They only do the designing and marketing for the products they sell. The actual knives, machetes, swords, etc are made in other countries.
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Post by Elheru Aran on Jan 10, 2012 13:34:42 GMT
This has been known for quite a while. I'm fairly sure they even acknowledge it in a number of places-- the main thing is that the weapons are 'branded' with their name regardless of where they're manufactured. The scimitar, at least, is very definitely a Windlass product, and I would not be surprised if Windlass also makes many if not most of their other swords. The knives, at least the higher quality ones, and machetes are probably made in China.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2012 15:21:57 GMT
that shasqua is stunning, and i also really need to get that kopis machete and put a proper handle on it
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Post by Neovenetar on Jan 10, 2012 15:28:05 GMT
That cutlass machete...... I want.
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Post by Sébastien on Jan 10, 2012 17:27:59 GMT
Oh ! They say that their will be more updates and products posted there
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Post by Kilted Cossack on Jan 11, 2012 0:00:22 GMT
Did someone say shasqua? Or even, shashka? Well, humph. I'm underwhelmed. The CS Shasqua looks to be an upgraded Windlass---as Vincent pointed out in a PM, no ricasso like the Windlass version, and a deeper and better defined fuller, but still, mighty close.
One thing we still haven't determined is whether, after adoption as the "only cold steel weapon of the Russian Empire" the civilian shashka underwent a metamorphosis, a certain "pigging out" and attendant weight gain. I wouldn't be at all surprised if that was the case, a matter of the extant Russian armories adopting existing saber blades to a shashka lookalike, while completely discarding the original specifications of "light as a feather, flexible as a vine, sharp as a razor."
At two pounds, it's (presumptively) four ounces lighter than the Windlass version, but still far heavier than the civilian version referenced in that video (over in the Renaissance and military section, somewhere).
To the extent that we were looking for a shashka, this isn't going to satisfy my cravings.
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Post by randomnobody on Jan 11, 2012 2:52:56 GMT
I'm with KC. I only bothered following the link because there was mention of the elusive shaswhatever, only to find the typical Cold Steel tacticrap offerings and a windlass with a facelift and a little too much mascara.
Pity, I'd have broken my years-long "no Cold Steel" rule for a good one.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Jan 12, 2012 21:42:58 GMT
Using 2011 as a model this stuff won't be available for 6-8 mos so no breath holding in either circumstance.
Typical CS twaddle: no such thing as an 1815 light cavalry sabre. It's an 1805; and short bladed at that. Blades tended to grow larger during the period, and a dinky chasseur blade wouldn't stand up to a 35 incher hussar saber. It is pretty. But I passed on the M1852 Prussian for same reason.
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Jan 12, 2012 21:54:15 GMT
Right now, I'm quite interested in their little training buckler (as well as the new machetes & viking axe); if it comes down even 10-15$ when it hits Kult of Athena, it'd be quite a steal. Sure you can't use it against steel blunts, but not everyone can afford steel.
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Post by Razor on Jan 13, 2012 4:33:13 GMT
Yeah I was looking at these too. They would go good with my Rawling baskethilt swords.
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Jan 13, 2012 5:00:57 GMT
I was thinking of pairing it with a shoto for Tinbe Rochin practice myself. The domed surface would do quite nicely in that respect. Now if only Rawlings would branch out a bit with their synthetics; I'd love some Japanese style trainers like theirs that have the thin blade and flexible tip. It'd make it a lot more interesting trying to track something that thin.
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Post by Luka on Jan 13, 2012 16:05:53 GMT
The viking axe is too heavy. Much too heavy.
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Post by LeMal on Jan 13, 2012 16:42:12 GMT
As is Hanwei's, with almost the same dimensions and weight. No doubt what the template was based on, both in design and eventual price point. Compared to A&A, for example; proper weight for a weapon-centric axe, true, but three times the price.
Though at the same time one should never count out any polearm of this weight. With the length and variety of hand placement options a polearm gives, even these whose design obviously splits the difference between tool and weapon, in the proper hands, still makes a hell of a weapon. As those who faced Musashi's subarito no doubt found.
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Post by GUEST on Jan 13, 2012 18:06:06 GMT
Their Viking axe is too heavy, don't understand why with a 3mm blade. The one I made has a 7mm blade and weight in at 4lbs.
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Post by LeMal on Jan 14, 2012 7:32:35 GMT
Could be a bit of a thicker handle, but almost certainly because the poll/eye area are much thicker than on a pure weapon axe. Look at most tool axes, that's where the excess weight is in order to withstand the stresses of hitting things like a tree trunk (and give more weight to the blow). Again, not that big a concern for me. Estwing for example makes one hell of a good axe with a much thinner head and better-cutting than you'd expect yet comes in at nearly a four-pounder. www.fleetfarm.com/catalog/produc ... amping-axe Yet I actually use it frequently for MA/cutting practice. Why? As I said, something that doubles as a tool and weapon has its own advantages. Especially if you don't carry a weapon around as a matter of habit. Double if the hybrid is cheaper. You just live with the tradeoff. Don't like the tradeoff, pay more for the pure weapon.
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Post by Elheru Aran on Jan 15, 2012 3:15:29 GMT
I believe the rationalization is that supposedly historically they did use these in a double duty of tool and weapon. That's somewhat questionable nowadays; even allowing for corrosion, the poll/eyes are much thinner than one would expect of a tool-use axe.
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Post by anonymouse on Jan 23, 2012 14:12:40 GMT
Look closely at the haft, I detect a cylindrical socket, same as on their old "pole-axe."
What the hell, cold steel?
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