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Post by sam salvati on Mar 23, 2011 23:57:41 GMT
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Mar 24, 2011 0:00:30 GMT
That's a good looking grip, Sam.
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Post by sam salvati on Mar 24, 2011 0:38:25 GMT
thanks vince~
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Mar 24, 2011 1:03:27 GMT
Am I correct in thinking it's set up for a two-point sling? I can't see the bottom of the grip very clearly, but I think that's what it is.
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Post by sam salvati on Mar 24, 2011 1:06:43 GMT
Double rings for an over the shoulder or single point sling. I imagine you could hook whatever you could fit on it though.
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Mar 24, 2011 1:08:03 GMT
That definitely adds some appeal to me; few things I like more than versatility.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2011 2:35:26 GMT
Please let us know what you think of the recoil after installation of the grip the next time you shoot it.
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Post by Sam H on Mar 24, 2011 13:03:43 GMT
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Post by Larry Jordan on Mar 24, 2011 14:25:52 GMT
It looks like recoil would be hard on the right wrist.
I would encourage you to take a defensive shotgun course with it and see how you like it.
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Post by GUEST on Mar 24, 2011 14:36:15 GMT
Sorry don't care for pistol grip only stocks on shotguns, limits the use of them to very close range. Had one on a shotgun for awhile along time ago, didn't take me long to get rid of it. Well I do still have it. Anyone want one for a Mossberg shotgun. Experts will tell you not to go with a pistol grip only stock too. They do have some use on a beeching shotgun but thats all.
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Post by Larry Jordan on Mar 24, 2011 15:08:27 GMT
Ouch.
Addendum
His left hand also loses its grip on the forearm, making it very difficult to cycle the shotgun quickly if one is engaging multiple targets.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2011 15:41:23 GMT
Hey guys I've got a question for you all. Nice grip btw sam, I'm looking to put a pistol grip on my 20 gauge rem 870 youth edition that I have from when I was a kid and I'm wondering if I need something different than all the ones I see out there for the 870s because it's a 20 gauge. Any input would be helpful, I figure the 20 gauge will be alot easier on the wrists than a 12 gauge. Also what about a pistol grip for the front end?
Thanks guys
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Post by ShooterMike on Mar 25, 2011 12:28:24 GMT
I'm all on-board with fallen here. When I was a kid, I tried one of these on an 870. Cool toy to play with in the house. But one trip to the range and you'll decide to 86 it fast. Makes it impossible to use the gun for what a shotgun's made for...rapid close-to-medium range engagement of fast-moving targets.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2011 8:54:24 GMT
Quoted for truth, My 2 cents, take it as you wish. Not to imply that SGs are noneffective. Quite the opposite, with buckshot it is an extremely devastating weapon at pistol distances but at pistol distances you have a longer, clumsier weapon in close quarters and a disadvantage on reloading and capacity over a semi auto pistola. Like stated earlier, Without a but stock you may lack quick follow up capabilities" if it is worth shooting once it is worth shooting again and again, remember that you are shooting to stop the threat and you will be fighting the BG or BGs and your own natural instincts and adrenaline
Much like swords, you can throw everything you have observed about SGs in the media and tv/movies out the window. They can be extremely intimidating perhaps but I would personally advise against introducing deadly force in to a situation for purposes of "intimidation" otherwise you could wind up the badguy in the eyes of the police and prosecutor. If you want a long gun for a home defense situation I would suggest a carbine with a folding stock. Shotguns using buckshot can penetrate a great deal with a larger pattern also so adjust your tactics accordingly especially if you live in an apartment complex. A reputable local training class and good ammo are the only way to fly IMHO
This is not legal advice and is all well meant and no disrespect intended.
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Post by sam salvati on Apr 6, 2011 1:24:28 GMT
LOL, I ain't going to be shooting skeet with it! I got the Keltec for HD, it's a full stock but still only 1" shorter then the 870 with the pg. The 870's my fun gun, even if I HD'd with it maximum range in my apt is 10 feet, even with the pistol grip center mass shots are easy with 00 and I found recoil no problem bracing my right hand to my hip, not like that sissy mary in the video firing gangsta style.
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on Apr 6, 2011 2:01:01 GMT
i need to make a video of me with my 8 shot mossberg 500 with pistol grip rapid fireing with 100% accuracy on 12 inch steel plates at 25 yards....or maybe shooting clays and hitting 8/8 with it...the pistol grip is amazing and once you learn to use it your way faster, a buttstock just gets in the way ill never own a shotgun with a buttstock every again except for my double. If your worried about recoil add a forend pistol grip, ive shot mine both with and without it, i prefer it without but with a forend pistol grip it cuts recoil in half if not more. dont let people say its too much recoil, ive shot mine 1 handed with military loaded buckshot just to make the point that it isnt gonna break your wrist from recoil...my 14 y/o bro never had any trouble with recoil
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Post by GUEST on Apr 6, 2011 7:38:51 GMT
Yes Saito you are going to have to made some videoes doing the things you claim you can do. What no pistol grip stock on your double barrel it's the only shotgun I do have a pistol grip stock on. Yes I can shoot it one handled
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Post by GUEST on Apr 6, 2011 15:11:50 GMT
Stevens model 311 12ga double barrel 18in barrels the shortest you can go. This use to belong to a highway patrolman who kept in mounted in the inside of his patrol car driver door. By the way military buckshot is low recoil.
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Post by ShooterMike on Apr 6, 2011 17:10:46 GMT
Add me to the list of those wanting to see such a video. IMO it's a stunt, not repeatable good tactics. There's a reason that professionals don't use pistol-grip shotguns for anything other than specialized, narrowly focused applications (for which they work well, BTW).
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Post by MrAcheson on Apr 6, 2011 17:26:24 GMT
This. Saw a guy knock his front tooth out trying to sight down the length of a PGO shotgun at the range. Pulled the trigger and bounced the receiver off his mouth. One of the only times I've actually seen someone get hurt on the range. It was his buddy's gun and buddy said that he only bothers to shoot it from the hip (at which point he can't hit anything).
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