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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2011 4:23:38 GMT
I have no background with Chinese Swords but have been looking hard at getting one. Who here can tell me about this sword...... Hanwei Chinese Qi Jian www.kultofathena.com/product.asp ... se+Qi+Jian Can I get this sword cheaper anywhere ealse?? Is it sharp? Thoughts??? Help??? Thanks. |
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Feb 21, 2011 5:04:57 GMT
Hi, Tengu. I'd recommend pming member Wes, as he has/had one (he had it up for sale sometime ago, but I can't remember if he sold it or not), so he could probably be the most informative member that I can think of on this subject.
As to finding it cheaper, Kult of Athena is one of the cheapest sites around, so other than eBay, where you're not always guaranteed as to the quality, I can't think of any place. Someone else may, though.
I'd like to also point out that, with the exception of their Practical Dao, Rodell Jian (marketed as the Cutting Jian), and their two dadao, Hanwei does not recommend cutting with any of their Chinese swords, some with good reason, so something to think about, too.
Hope that answered your questions.
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Post by Taran on Feb 21, 2011 13:29:49 GMT
One thing to keep in mind:
Hanwei's only cutting jian is the "Rodell Cutting Jian."
It's easy to pull out of a crowd of Hanwei jians being as it's the only one labelled as a cutter.
The others are perfectly fine for forms. Many are great for sparring (you'll note that they are specifically called "sparring" jians), but the Rodell cutter is their only cutting jian.
So if you want a cutter, get the Rodell or go elsewhere until they change things.
If you want it for other reasons, then Hanwei has some very nice pieces.
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Post by SwordFan on Feb 21, 2011 13:43:36 GMT
Hi there , I cant give you any real info on the sword right now ,but iv got one arriving sometime this week (Just awaiting our Customs to clear my package), ill then be happy to post some pics and thoughts on it for you if you would like .
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Post by adtharp on Feb 21, 2011 14:23:30 GMT
I have a Qi Jian and I love it. It is fine for cutting - it has made it through mats that a Last Legend took a set on, so I call it rough and tumble. Also, I don't believe Hanwei has any sparring Jians - Taran, can you point me to those?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2011 15:56:54 GMT
I would love to know why Hanwei does not recomend cutting with it?? Is it beacuse it does not come sharp? I ask this beacuse it is made from a single billet of steel, I would think this is stronger. Could someone please enlighten me.  Thanks. |
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Post by Vincent Dolan on Feb 21, 2011 21:20:20 GMT
I've heard it's mostly liability reasons, but don't quote me on that. Another reason could be their construction. One of our members (I can't remember who and I don't feel like looking it up), during his review of the Cutting Jian, took apart the Hanwei Damascus Jian to show the comparison and the hole in the hilt for the tang was far too big causing the hilt to rotate during I think all but the lightest of handling and I think it even caused the pommel to unscrew somewhat. However, my memory is a little spotty, so you should check the review on the old forum to get the whole story.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2011 21:30:19 GMT
From what I understand the sword in qustion (Hanwei Chinese Qi Jian) is made from one pice of steel end to end.
So with this said there should be nothing to take apart. "I think."
Thoughts??
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2011 22:59:37 GMT
I ask of these qustions beacuse I am looking hard to adding a Chinese sword to my wall of swords which are mostly Katanas. (LOL I hope my wife won't kill me.") The Hanwei cutting Jian looks nice but in my PO the Hanwei Chinese Qi Jian looks way better. I am a tad lost as of what to do, so I hope someone can lend some insight on the Hanwei Chinese Qi Jian. Thanks. |
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Post by Taran on Feb 23, 2011 0:38:07 GMT
The Adam Hsu line is mostly for sparring. They also made a high-end sparring jian out of the same metal used for olympic foils (won;t hold an edge worth a dang by design). Don't remember what they called it, though.
The old website for Hanwei was a good deal clearer about what each sword was designed for.
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Post by Taran on Feb 23, 2011 0:41:36 GMT
I would recommend spending the money on a Jin Shi or a Cold Steel jian if you want a cutting jian that looks Good. The prices are even comparable. Jin Shi has the better, I think, but there's no waiting list for the CS (usually is for Jin Shi; custom work, you know).
There's also been a lot of favourable talk lately about Zheng Wu and another Chinese company that had some bad history, but they tend to cost more. Apparently, both companies have taken significant steps to address their previous issues.
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Post by Lobster Hunter on Feb 23, 2011 2:20:31 GMT
I have a Qi jian. It's a beautiful looking sword. The blade is polished to a mirror finish and the style & detail on the hilt and scabbard are awesome. When I saw it, I HAD TO HAVE IT! The only flaw on the one I have is that the color of the ray skin on the handle is very pale and doesn't match the ray skin on the scabbard. As for functionality, the blade on mine is paper cutting sharp only for about 6 inches near the tip. The rest of the blade is not exactly dull, but definitely not katana sharp. Plus, any kind of rigorous cutting will probably scratch up the super mirror finish. I can see why they don't recommend cutting with this one. However, if you really wanted to cut with it, I bet you could, especially if you honed the edge a bit. Maybe some come sharper overall than others (like adtharp's). Another thing you should be aware of is that because the whole sword is basically one solid piece of steel, it makes it quite a bit heavier than a typical jian (with a LOT of the weight in the handle & pummel). I imagine that this makes the handling a bit weird if you were expecting it to behave like a more traditional jian. If you're looking for a more functional cutter, the Cold Steel Gim looks pretty good. www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=CS88G&name=Cold+Steel+Gim+Sword |
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Post by adtharp on Feb 23, 2011 3:42:21 GMT
I don't believe that is true. I have had and used a Hsu Jian. When they say they are for everyday practice they mean forms, it was actually relatively sharp (not for cutting, but the edge was not rebated). I do not believer there is a sparring line. My Qi did not come sharp, it was sharpened.
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Post by Taran on Feb 23, 2011 4:04:40 GMT
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Post by Taran on Feb 23, 2011 4:20:40 GMT
You are right on the Adam Hsu blades not being the sparring blades. I misremembered and the new website screwed me up a bit... The Shaolin blades are the sparring blades. sbgswordforum.proboards.com/inde ... read=10897 It's the "Maraging steel." |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2011 21:50:23 GMT
Hay thanks guys, all good info. I may have to look into getting a custom pice. Again thanks. |
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Post by SwordFan on Mar 1, 2011 8:57:04 GMT
Well I finally received my Qi Jian , must say I really like it so far and BIG plus ,mine actually came sharp enough to cut with !! Not paper cutting sharp ,but went through some Mats no problem !Looks like I got lucky with a half decent edge .
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Post by Sir Tre on Mar 1, 2011 9:04:27 GMT
alright. happy for you... i am still interested in one of these... if i could just convince my bank to increase my balance.
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Post by Lobster Hunter on Mar 1, 2011 9:07:05 GMT
Congrats! Have you noticed the beautiful bell-like ring the sword makes when you tap the blade? It's a sword that doubles as a musical instrument.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2011 17:04:49 GMT
Good for you. Hope the two of you have a long lasting relationship.
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