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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2010 14:09:51 GMT
Does anyone own the Windlass Sword of Troy? Any info would be great. Thanks
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2010 17:51:41 GMT
I dont remember windlass doing a sword of Troy was it a while ago,do you have a picture.
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Post by sicheah on Apr 7, 2010 17:57:26 GMT
Do you mean this one: Judging from the PoB alone, seems rather blade heavy, which is to be expected from swords like a Roman spatha...but the sword does not seem to have distal taper and seems to me (at least from KoA measurement) that is getting very slightly thicker from hilt to tip
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2010 18:33:20 GMT
it's only 2 lbs, if you balance the weight too close to the hilt it wouldn't act properly. I like the overall design but hate the fuller.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2010 18:43:45 GMT
Thats the sword. I don't remember this one in there cat.
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Post by sicheah on Apr 7, 2010 19:29:24 GMT
it's only 2 lbs, if you balance the weight too close to the hilt it wouldn't act properly. I like the overall design but hate the fuller. True to that, but a 2lb sword with that PoB almost 8" on a 26-27" blade and no distal taper, I wouldn't call it a very lively sword. With a nice edge, I would expect this sword to cut rather well. I don't know much about the fittings on a Troy sword, and Windlass is somewhat known to lack in historical accuracy department, but quite a number of Roman calvary spatha has very little distal taper, weights about the same and has PoB about 7-8 from the guard. Somehow the somewhat leafy blade shape reminds me of a celtic sword. Yeah I would rather if they did not put the fuller.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2010 21:43:39 GMT
Handled this at Kult of Athena.
Felt cheap, wasn't impressed, didn't balance well.
Also not a fan of the spartan short sword.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2010 1:19:13 GMT
That's nothing like a spatha, or a sword used in the Trojan War, it's just a fantasy design.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2010 3:31:05 GMT
If a guy named Troy bought it, THEN it would be a sword of Troy...but the ancient city of Troy? Hardly.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2010 13:18:30 GMT
Probably more factual to a real Greek sword used at the battle of Troy would be something from Scorpion swords in a lakonion or kopis style. traditionalarcherybows.com/default.htmlI went fantasy/movie and bought the Achilles sword from him and it is one tough sword but I liked the movie.Or if you want to go even more into reality there's even Bronze age craft. www.bronze-age-craft.com/If you really like the sword of Troy and buy dont forget to do a review for us.
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Post by shadowhowler on Apr 9, 2010 17:01:11 GMT
it's only 2 lbs, if you balance the weight too close to the hilt it wouldn't act properly. I like the overall design but hate the fuller. To be fair, you hate ALL fullers.
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Post by sicheah on Apr 9, 2010 19:58:10 GMT
Probably more factual to a real Greek sword used at the battle of Troy would be something from Scorpion swords in a lakonion or kopis style. traditionalarcherybows.com/default.htmlI went fantasy/movie and bought the Achilles sword from him and it is one tough sword but I liked the movie.Or if you want to go even more into reality there's even Bronze age craft. www.bronze-age-craft.com/If you really like the sword of Troy and buy dont forget to do a review for us. Agree right there. Archerout (I think is his name at SBG) could get you a custom made sword.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2010 4:40:48 GMT
it's only 2 lbs, if you balance the weight too close to the hilt it wouldn't act properly. I like the overall design but hate the fuller. To be fair, you hate ALL fullers. Not quite true actually, what is a viking sword without a fuller? I like wide shallow fullers on swords that require them.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2010 18:52:28 GMT
Well I finally broke down and bought this sword today. I'm glad i did, because it was the last one. I will let you know what its like.
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Post by shadowhowler on May 21, 2010 19:29:44 GMT
Well I finally broke down and bought this sword today. I'm glad i did, because it was the last one. I will let you know what its like. Review baby, review!
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2010 12:42:31 GMT
I Have a book called "the historys" by Herodotus riton some 2000 years ago any way it said the in Troas tey used spears not swords....
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2010 13:51:17 GMT
The Trojans used various weapons, including the sword. I will review this sword as soon as I get it.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2010 16:13:57 GMT
wares yore proof this book was riten by a man who was there not by a dumb movie writer.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2010 18:09:33 GMT
wares yore proof this book was riten by a man who was there not by a dumb movie writer. If it is indeed written by Herodotus then that is proof enough, also if we take into account the time period of Troy and the Trojan wars (allegedly) then it is very likely that the metal working had not yet reached a point where swords could be consistently made especially for infantry men. Hollywood has much to answer for with their overuse of swords in movies. Spears however have been man's weapon since we learned to fashion them and harden their points in fire. The spear was the most prolific weapon on the battlefield even up until the renaissance and beyond.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2010 18:14:53 GMT
wellll... H-rod is not particularly known for being accurately truthful. If you want truthful historians, look at Thucidides, if you want some entertainment mixed with your histories, then read Herodotus. Anyways, all archeological evidence points to the primary weapon of the Greek Hopolite being the "long-shadowed spear". However, swords were a secondary weapon, given the number of surviving relics we have of them. The sword was a common secondary weapon in the ancient world, so yes, the people of Troy or Troas (depending on where you place Troy, geographically) would have used the spear, but also the sword. Also, in the Illiad and the Aenead, there are continuous references to the sword of Troy, so yes, Trojan soldiers did use swords. If you want an excellent book about historical greek warefare, read "A western way of war" By Victor Hanson. It discusses the means, methods, and goals of greek Polis V Polis warfare.
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