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Post by Avery on Jul 24, 2009 0:42:36 GMT
Avery: I have spent so long throwing kunai and shuriken now I am trying to understand the mechanics of handle throwing, it is a very different feeling, when you handle throw do you thumb and forefinger with a flick? Or do you grasp the whole handle? Have you done any handle throwing demos? I'm trying to get a vid shot now, but the damn weather won't cooperate. I guess the first question I have to ask is what is it you're throwing. I've no doubt you know different blades call for different styles. Take for instance those Gill Hibbon Pro throwers. The ones that are shaped like an arrow. No matter what size they are, I've found it best to flick your wrist. Kinda like transitioning from the hammer grip to the handshake grip right before you release, in a quick motion. Next, I would ask have you thrown an axe. From previous conversations we've had, I believe you have. I think so, any way. So, I would say throw these by the handle just as you would an axe. Use the same grip, momentum and release. But honestly, it does take a little practice. Finding the right grip for a wide,thin handle like whats on these can be a bit daunting. I will say it's not that hard at all, though, if you have a modicum of experience with throwing. As a side note, when I first started throwing bowie in conjuction with an axe,I had to focus on my pacings more than anything. The grip, more or less, came natural. Now I can throw an axe, take a step, draw from a sheath and throw a bowie in less than four seconds. (not bragging, but kinda am )
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2009 0:52:46 GMT
Yep thrown axes (love that sound as the thunk into the target), at the moment I don't have any throwing knives, need to find some good ones, possibly gil hibbens. From what I have observed I am not sure that a single edged throwing knife would act in the same way as a kunai or a shuriken. Would I be right in thinking that throwing knives need to rotate? I reckon the wraith would be a bloody good throwing knife except that it has an ancient wood handle on it..
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Post by Avery on Jul 24, 2009 1:46:05 GMT
Honestly Wraith, I'd stay away from Hibbens. Not a big fan. These Knives act just like an axe, in throwing, weight and momentum. In that regard they are very different from kunai and shuriken. Balance isn't so much a factor as force and rotation are. (like an axe) I can see if I can dig up a few links for you that are local, so the shipping charges won't kill ya. But till then, here's a link to where I got mine. www.ragweedforge.com/ThrowingCatalog.html Scroll down to the bottom, you'll find most of the weights and measurements should you decide to have some made. The specs you can't find, I'd be happy to provide. Also, I think if you wrapped your Wraith tightly in tape and started off throwing at...say a bale of hay, youd be okay.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2009 5:08:58 GMT
I've been trying to design a combat knife that can double as a thrower, so far not much like, although I have to say the idea of the leather is rather ingenious, I wonder if micarta would be impact resistant.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2009 5:23:51 GMT
Kraton or pacmyr....SanMarc.
Micarta is made from Soybeans and is a cellulite.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2009 6:06:06 GMT
I'm actually a big fan of the Hibben throwers. Not the pro throwers mind you but their cord grip throwers... www.knifeoutlet.com/shop/catalog/9786.htmI love these things. Nice sharp serviceable edge, thick enough and massive enough to be thrown with authority and overall nice looking too. Yes - they throw like an axe, fly and handle like an axe when you throw it. I like the fact that its like that. Makes it so I can throw an axe then switch to throwing a knife all without changing how I throw. I don't even have to change my pacing - I just grip the blade in a handshake grip and throw like I'd throw an axe. No - I have never cut my hand doing this. I also love the fact that they can double as a camp knife. Yes I've batoned firewood with them. I've also skinned small animals with them and used them as all around utility knives around when I camp. Then if I'm camping at an SCA event and I'm off to the throwing range I grab my axes and the knives I've been cutting things up at camp with and go throw. They've served me well and while I'm always on the lookout for other types of throwing knives I really love my Hibben cord throwers. I haven't tried the bowies you have yet Avery and in time I'll probably get a set but when I can get 3 sets of the Hibbens I love for the price of 2 of those bowies it'll be a while before I can justify it. I will say I've tried a plethora of cheaper knives in various shapes and sizes and none have appealed to me nearly as much as these hibbens. I've also tried a few more expensive knives and I still come back to my hibbens. The only time I venture away from them is when I throw axes or decide I want to play with really BIG knives in which case I throw the $5 crap bowies from pakistan. That's just my .02 though - just thought I'd stick up for my favorite throwers. lol
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Post by Avery on Jul 24, 2009 6:50:06 GMT
I've been trying to design a combat knife that can double as a thrower, so far not much like, although I have to say the idea of the leather is rather ingenious, I wonder if micarta would be impact resistant. I have several links where micarta is used. On axes and knives. IMO, it's resistant. Very resistant. Check this out. www.rmjtactical.com/
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2009 7:50:34 GMT
Nice to see our boys got some good hawks!!!!!
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Post by Avery on Jul 24, 2009 16:10:43 GMT
@ Sam- I had a few of Hibben knives in the past, I guess the main thing I didn't like was the stainless steel construction. I know with a blade that short the chances of a break is very slim, but I just couldn't get it out of my head. The other thing is I never cared for alot of his designs. But thats just me, I have friends who swear by their knives and constantly try to convert me. It's a case of "to each his own". SanMarc - yeah those are some badass axes, they're considered the best tactical axes in the world at the moment. With a price tag to match!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2009 17:34:37 GMT
Yeah I'm not going to ever try to convert someone who's already experienced with knives to my Hibbens. Honestly if I find something better that'll be my new favorite knife. lol The thing is that for the cost of a set of knives, around $30 if you do your research, you'd only get 2 of those big bowies. For someone who's just getting into throwing - and for those on a limited budget these knives are a fantastic value. I like the idea of a big purpose built throwers like that but currently my budget doesn't allow for them.
Anyway, about those hawks - man they look great! Too bad I can't justify the price...
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Post by Avery on Jul 25, 2009 16:42:05 GMT
I agree with the lack of cost. And like you said for someone just getting started, I'd say they'll do, but I myself just don't recommend them. It's not really about getting some one to buy something more expensive, but more to do with better distance and durability. Of course the term "better" is subjective alot of times.
And oh yeah, those RMJ tactical axes are awesome. I want one terribly bad, but right now just can't justify the cost.
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