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Post by benvenusa on Mar 26, 2024 19:44:49 GMT
I really want an arming sword and have wanted to get an Albion for awhile now but i'm torn and i'm getting into the weeds. I know this is extremely subjective but is there a top handling Albion arming sword or top 3? I really like the Prince(it's pretty) but have heard really good things about the Knight, Vigil & Oakeshott. I definitely would prefer function over form and although its a silly hypothetical I want the best arming sword for a dual to the death or home defense. Any thoughts?
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Post by AJGBlack on Mar 26, 2024 21:26:56 GMT
Poitier. It's Peter Johnson's personal top pick. Mine would be either the Solingen or any of the type XIVs.
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Post by eastman on Mar 27, 2024 0:50:25 GMT
you need to figure out the best fit for you
How far are you from New Glarus, Wisconsin (home of Albion)?
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Post by blackngold on Mar 27, 2024 2:45:37 GMT
I really want an arming sword and have wanted to get an Albion for awhile now but i'm torn and i'm getting into the weeds. I know this is extremely subjective but is there a top handling Albion arming sword or top 3? I really like the Prince(it's pretty) but have heard really good things about the Knight, Vigil & Oakeshott. I definitely would prefer function over form and although its a silly hypothetical I want the best arming sword for a dual to the death or home defense. Any thoughts? The Poitiers. Hands-down. And it's not even close. It even has the nicest grip!
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Post by toddstratton1 on Mar 27, 2024 3:51:28 GMT
I think really the best you should pick is what speaks to you the most. All the albions handle pretty well. But each person has personal preference as well. None of them handle poorly but they are sometimes fairly distinctive. If you want a more nimble sword just avoid anything with an excessively long blade that would be more meant for cavalry type of stuff. Usually some of the earlier high medieval models have this. Ones that more forward blade balanced and an overall longer reach, those will feel less manueverable bur brutal as cutters.
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Post by curiomansion on Mar 27, 2024 21:50:50 GMT
Super subjective question, but a good place to start... Do you want your sword to feel like Mike Tyson, Muhammad Ali, or George Foreman?
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Post by CivilSavage on Mar 28, 2024 21:40:52 GMT
Viking era (800 AD - 1000 AD) - The Thegn or The Huscarl
Early Medieval (1050 AD - 1200 AD) - The Norman or The Vigil
High Med (1250 AD - 1350 AD) - The Sovereign or The Prince
Late Med (1350 AD - 1450 AD) - The Poitier or The Burgundian
Early Renn (1450 AD - 1550 AD) - The Doge or The Machiavelli
Honorable Mentions - The Hospitaler, The Soldat and the Laird
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Post by toddstratton1 on Mar 28, 2024 23:40:55 GMT
Don't be sleeping on the Vassal either, if someone wants a really fun handling falchion. That one is an absolute beast.
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Post by LeMal on Mar 29, 2024 0:49:55 GMT
Viking era (800 AD - 1000 AD) - The Thegn or The Huscarl Early Medieval (1050 AD - 1200 AD) - The Norman or The Vigil High Med (1250 AD - 1350 AD) - The Sovereign or The Prince Late Med (1350 AD - 1450 AD) - The Poitier or The Burgundian Early Renn (1450 AD - 1550 AD) - The Doge or The Machiavelli Honorable Mentions - The Hospitaler, The Soldat and the Laird I'd go pretty close. Viking: Thegn Early M: Laird High M: Sovereign Late M: Squire Ren: Doge
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Post by pellius on Mar 29, 2024 2:08:30 GMT
Don't be sleeping on the Vassal either, if someone wants a really fun handling falchion. That one is an absolute beast. Dunno if it would be considered an arming sword, but the Vassal is a Fomula One scalpel with a three foot reach!
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Post by fester on Apr 2, 2024 12:43:15 GMT
For me it is the Kingmaker and the Burgundian hands down. The Lancaster was a close second. And I have owned alot of Albions. But as has been said it can vary from person to person on what they think is the best handling.
having said that each individual sword is different even in the same Albion models
For instance the Kingmaker I own is probably one of their best produced of that particular model. How do I know? When I called Albion back in 2014 to check on the status of the sword they told me it was ready and the owner (who died a couple of years ago) was swinging it around because he said it was the best balanced of all the Kingmakers he had ever held. To him it was close to perfection. And I have to agree after handling other Kingmakers.
I recently sold another Kingmaker I had bought from them because it could not compare to the one I have had since 2014. Don't get me wrong it was not a clunker and was a fine sword but it just did not have that perfection feel like the older one.
so the bottom line is be aware that even among the same models there can be some variance.
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Post by ms267 on May 4, 2024 23:37:16 GMT
Echoing others: this is truly a subjective question!
What I have come to understand when people ask this question is that they are looking for a sword that “floats” in the hand and that it is being handled in a civilian type context, not wearing armor and not opposing an opponent with armor.
Also, that they don’t expect to be wearing the blade all the time, that they don’t need to be weighed down with other gear, or dealing with a shield or buckler…
That said, the Albion Chevalier (or Oakeshott—same blade; different hilt) is a rather brilliant sword, fitting the above description well. And while it is a millimeter or so off of a real sword in the Wallace collection, and this we’ll assume was made for battlefield combat, it is shockingly smooth to handle. Glides through the air, goes where you think it should be, in a effortless way you have to feel to believe. The Chevalier grip gives you a lot of purchase as well. I had a discussion on myarmory back when, where Peter Johnsson chimed in and said it would also suit buckler work well.
With that said, I actually like the substantial feel of the Sovereign, and love the Doge which handles amazingly well … and both have more presence than the Chevalier. Both would deliver a more substantial thrust due to their design (though not as dedicated to the thrust as the Poitier, of course)…
But for quick cuts against lightly armored or no armored opponents, say on an arid battlefield in the Middle East during the crusades, the Chevalier is hard to beat! It feels like a sword for a member of the nobility to use in court, wear on the street, on horseback and in battle. Though perhaps chose another sword against plate armor!
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Post by pellius on May 5, 2024 18:14:48 GMT
Also consider the Doge
I’m not sure it’s an arming sword, but it boasts fabulous handling.
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Post by darkcampaign on May 15, 2024 1:50:34 GMT
the Albion Chevalier (or Oakeshott—same blade; different hilt) is a rather brilliant sword....it is a millimeter or so off of a real sword in the Wallace collection, and....we’ll assume was made for battlefield combat, it is shockingly smooth to handle. Glides through the air, goes where you think it should be, in a effortless way you have to feel to believe. ...for quick cuts against lightly armored or no armored opponents....the Chevalier is hard to beat! It feels like a sword for a member of the nobility to use in court, wear on the street, on horseback and in battle. Though perhaps chose another sword against plate armor! THIS. I've begun working regularly with a couple of Oakeshotts, and they've quickly become some of my very favorite Albion arming swords, for many of the reasons articulated above. It's relatively fast, light for its overall length, agile, beautifully balanced, has fantastic reach, and is a highly effective cutter. The finely-crafted blade is cleverly engineered, feels plenty lively, and is quite elegant to behold in person. It has just enough blade presence to slice and hack with authority, yet without becoming ponderously blade-heavy or fatiguing during longer sessions. The fact that it's a close replica in many respects to a very desirable existing historical find is icing on the cake. If one is in need of a particularly rigid, dedicated thruster, or a bashing bruiser to hack through heavy plate and dense shields, one may choose to look elsewhere, but otherwise, I'm quite enamored with this Oakeshott/Chevalier blade design.
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Post by Lord Newport on May 15, 2024 2:50:37 GMT
ALbion Knight Albion Solingen
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Post by pennijr on May 15, 2024 11:44:49 GMT
Squire for me.
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Post by curiomansion on May 15, 2024 13:23:19 GMT
The earlier period swords are getting no love. The Arn/Gaddhjalt is perfect for what it is. If you like broad, sweeping swings, you can't do much better on the market. The Cherusker, may she rest in peace, is also criminally underrated but now is no longer in production.
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