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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2020 22:54:34 GMT
Seeking advice.
I've read 1) full tang is more solid, more western, heavier, less likely to break, more jarring which whacking weeds. 2) rat tail is traditional, lighter, more forgiving when whacking stuff.
Anyone have first hand experience? Advice? I'm torn. Can only afford one.
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Dec 8, 2020 23:12:00 GMT
I prefer stick-tang (either partial or full-length), because I prefer traditional Nepalese over military-style Indian and modern Nepalese copies of military style Indian kukris.
That said, the kukri I've used most for chopping wood, secure destruction of research materials for privacy, woodworking draw knife, etc. has been a full-tang kukri (good chance it's the Windlass Regimental Kukri). That's partly because it's the kukri I've had for the longest, and also combines being functional and expendable.
I'd choose first based on length, weight, general style, and price and if there are both stick-tang and full-tang options left after those choices, then pick the one that looks better (or is lighter, or is cheaper, or whatever). It doesn't make much difference in practice.
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Post by soulfromheart on Dec 8, 2020 23:18:39 GMT
To quote Kailash Blades on the subject : The gist of it is : full tang for heavy duty, stick-tang for practicality ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2020 23:23:43 GMT
Well let me clarify. I already own two full tang kukris.
1) el cheapo Deepeeka 11" rosewood. It's built like a tank. Handles like one too. There's absolutely no artistic value. It's more like a tool for the shed. Indestructible. Good for chopping anything. Worth maybe $20 or $30 bucks. Lawn and garden type of stuff. 2) GGK 11" balanced kukri. This one has a 10mm spine (same as the Deepeeka), but there's no comparing them. This one is art!! Satin polish, rosewood, copper rivets. Gorgeous. Kinda heavy? - yeah. But it's deadly, fast, and gorgeous.
Whether I look at the el cheapo Deepeeka or the badass gorgeous GGK, I've got the chopping and clearing thing covered. One has more elegance and "danger" than the other... but they're both kinda geared for the same thing. The Deepeeka is a cheap tool, the GGK is a collectible.
I guess what I'm asking is... when it comes to higher end kukris - killing machines.... what is preferred, full tang or rat tail?
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Dec 8, 2020 23:31:12 GMT
My best fighting kukris are all stick-tang.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2020 23:36:47 GMT
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Post by soulfromheart on Dec 8, 2020 23:53:10 GMT
Maybe the true difference would be in the feeling/handling ? The full tang one would be "more balanced" whereas the stick tang one would be more "forward choppy" ? In any case, they look awesome and the reviews/videos are pretty cool looking too.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2020 0:02:34 GMT
That's cop out! Which would you choose?
Not an indictment... just a newbie asking for advice.
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Dec 9, 2020 0:16:34 GMT
I'd buy the stick-tang. It's 80g lighter, but both are short and light, so the full-tang one will be OK, too. The full-tang one has a butt plate, which will help protect the flared butt of the grip from chipping from rough treatment.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2020 0:42:55 GMT
Thanks for the straight-up answer. I was leaning that way...
I want a stick tang. I think...
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Post by Lionhardt on Dec 9, 2020 20:31:07 GMT
There is only one Kukri to buy imo, the Windlass one. Why? Because they did and still do make the official ones used by the Nepalese Military. They are THE name in Kukris. Since you don't seem to have one of theirs yet, then it is a no brainier. There is one on eBay for $95 right now. Otherwise MRL/ACC carry the new ones. I'd get others after that to try them out and see how they compare to the original, but as far as 1 to have, it has to be theirs.
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Post by Eric Bergeron on Dec 9, 2020 21:33:09 GMT
I'm sorry but Windlass is nice an all but does not compare to a Kailash blades kukri or a GGK Kukri in terms of fit & finish, but you also pay more for those 2 as well, so do you pay less and get a decent kukri or you pay slightly more and get a fantastic kukri. I have 3 windlass & 3 kailash, I'd grab the Kailash everytime.
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Post by randomnobody on Dec 9, 2020 21:38:39 GMT
As a part-time kukri fan, I'm far more interested in the various "village" styles than the military patterns, apart from which the Windlass offerings simply don't capture me. Aesthetics are mediocre at best, and from what I've heard they're quality is... okay. Lots of vendors have claimed to hold the official contract, and most of them are just better than Windlass. That is, if you must insist that military patterns are the only valid kukris.
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Dec 9, 2020 21:59:36 GMT
There is only one Kukri to buy imo, the Windlass one. Why? Because they did and still do make the official ones used by the Nepalese Military. Strictly speaking, the Windlass Regimental Kukri is the official one used by the Indian army Gurkha units. It's the Mk III kukri, which was used by the British Gurkha units 1943 to about 1960, and is still used by the Indian army Gurkha units. The Mk III and the similar MK II were made in India (and also the Mk I, which was more similar to traditional Nepali kukris). Following Indian independence, the British lost their bases in India, and moved their Gurkha recruiting/training/support bases into Nepal, and when they ran out of Indian-made kukris, switched to Nepalese-made kukris, the Mk V (which is also the current Nepalese army issue kukri). The British and Indian issue kukris: kilatools.com/kukrihistory/20thcenturyofficialIssue/mk1.htmlNepalese military kukris: chinesemartialstudies.com/2012/11/05/identifying-and-collecting-the-nepalese-military-kukri/
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2020 4:34:59 GMT
Seeking advice. I've read 1) full tang is more solid, more western, heavier, less likely to break, more jarring which whacking weeds. 2) rat tail is traditional, lighter, more forgiving when whacking stuff. Anyone have first hand experience? Advice? I'm torn. Can only afford one. I've never heard that full tang is more painful on the hand before (when hitting stuff). That's good to know. Thanks
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Post by Jash on Dec 10, 2020 4:47:27 GMT
If you're worried about using a stick-tang khukuri... here's a video of someone testing out a (roughly 100 year old) Antique stick-tang :
I own a few khukuris now (10 or 11 i think)... and for me it comes down to personal preference. Like buying a pocket knife, if you buy one from a reputable company it will perform as it should (even without super cool testing videos lol). As above, i too like to use my Windlass khukuris - not because i think they're better, or even "just as good", but because they're about half the price lol. Full tang construction might not be needed, but I feel more comfortable pushing it to it's limits. That being said, my favourite handling khukuris are all stick-tang...
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Post by pgandy on Dec 10, 2020 12:32:19 GMT
It looks like he got a better one than I did. Mine is pleasing enough to the eye, feels good to the hand, and balances like his. However, no ring and the blade appears a bit on the soft side. About 40 HRC and doesn’t hold an edge that well. These things were made by a number of people and I suppose the quality reflects it. As for full tang vs stick I suppose it’s largely a matter of preference. Most of mine are stick and both types have held up. In the final analysis the full tang should be stronger but the stick tang has proved to be more than strong enough.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2020 12:54:06 GMT
Think my next one will be a GGK or Kailash stick tang.
Appreciate the input guys. Very helpful.
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Post by pgandy on Dec 10, 2020 13:51:41 GMT
Think my next one will be a GGK or Kailash stick tang. Appreciate the input guys. Very helpful. Please don't fail to give your opinion when receiving it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2020 14:04:11 GMT
I'll do that - though it won't be soon. I just bought that Aislinn bastard prototype (separate thread). Wiped out this month's new toys budget.
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