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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2009 1:55:21 GMT
Hey guys, I found a treasure trove of windlass swords in Australia, most of which I believe are discontinued but I am having a few dilemmas because I can't find any information on them. The possibilities that I am considering are; transitional viking sword rheinfelden italian cut and thrust higgins towton scottish medieval schiavona If anyone has any experience with any of these particularly the trans viking, rhein, italian or the schiavona it would be greatly appreciated. I know that the towton was reviewed on SBG by Paul but anything is appreciated (if Paul is reading this, videos would be great, hint hint )
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Post by randomnobody on Apr 18, 2009 2:48:47 GMT
I've read a review or two of most of those. If memory serves, the Towton was especially good. If memory serves, that is.
Likewise I recall hearing good things on the Italian, the schiavona I've read about but can't remember the conclusion...the viking I seem to recall was decent but had some grip issues? Higgins and Rheinfelden are new names to me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2009 11:40:45 GMT
Towton is very good, at least so they say, I haven't handled it. But I have handled transitional viking and it is quite impressive sword.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2009 15:36:04 GMT
I read good things about the transitional viking (I think, among others, from Odingaard) and the Towton (which has maybe a bit too much flex for the thrust by most accounts but still well considered)....Someone here has one of the Schiavonas from Windlass (in the review section maybe?), can't remember whom, hope he'll chime in on this model...I'm pretty sure I read somewhere the Schiavona is actually not a bad bet for this type at Windlass's price point...
If it's a web-store, could you post a link please? I'd be interested in seing pictures of those older models...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2009 16:38:18 GMT
Windlass Schiavona reviews at myArmoury Type 1Type 2I used to own a Type 1, but I sold it to someone here at SBG. A poor handling sword, don't particularly miss it.
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Post by jpfranco on Apr 18, 2009 16:59:04 GMT
If you have the chance to lay your hand on the Italian cut & thrust DO IT!!!!!!!!!
I have one and it is a wonderful and beautiful sword. The blade is stiff as heck and it is tightly put together. Now I know that Windlass has quality control issues but if you get it and it is like mine you will not regret it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2009 19:53:37 GMT
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Post by randomnobody on Apr 18, 2009 20:33:57 GMT
Oh god...they have the Loiten... ...oh god it's expensive.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2009 21:19:54 GMT
If you really want a Loiten, Viking shield has one for about half that. www.viking-shield.com/index.html(have to click through and scroll down, it's all under one URL) Of course that's directed at Random, since they are located in the US. Also, I concur, the Towton handles quite nicely.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2009 22:54:51 GMT
The Schiavona on that website looks very similar to the horseman broadsword from Cold Steel.
I heard somewhere on SBG that Cold Steel get that sword from the same place that supplied Windlass with their Schiavona, and that both models are actually the same, or almost the same.
On another thing, that website is australian, are these prices in australian dollars ?
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Post by randomnobody on Apr 18, 2009 23:59:44 GMT
If you really want a Loiten, Viking shield has one for about half that. www.viking-shield.com/index.html(have to click through and scroll down, it's all under one URL) Of course that's directed at Random, since they are located in the US. Also, I concur, the Towton handles quite nicely. I found that site, but I can't tell if it's actually in stock or not. I've been meaning to email them (I've actually known of the site for years now) but 1) I'm lazy 2) I have terrible memory 3) I still can't afford it.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Apr 19, 2009 1:53:43 GMT
Sebastion, when I did my review of the cold steel horsweman's broadsword I was informed by many people that it was in fact the exact same blade and basket hilt with only slight differences to be found in the pommel and grip. I was also told that some of the very first shipments of the CS Horseman the swords had Windlass' mark on the tang. mine says cold steel though. it's a decent sword.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2009 8:09:45 GMT
Random: is the loiten supposed to be a good sword? Don't forget those prices are in AUD but the shipping would probably be the killer.
I am thinking that I might get the italian cut and thrust it is a beautiful looking sword and for being in Australia it is a reasonable price.
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Post by jpfranco on Apr 19, 2009 13:43:29 GMT
Here are some stats on the sword: overall length 38 3/4" blade length 31 1/4" POB 2" from hilt COP 22 1/2 " from hilt weight 2lbs 14 on Here are some pics: Hilt Sword Hope this will help your decision making process.
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Post by YlliwCir on Apr 19, 2009 14:05:25 GMT
Hey, I like that one, JP. Beautiful! Is the pommel threaded or peened?
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Post by jpfranco on Apr 19, 2009 15:47:31 GMT
It is threaded then epoxied like most Windlass. No rattling nor looseness though.
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Post by randomnobody on Apr 19, 2009 16:06:01 GMT
BW: I've not been able to find any reviews on the Loiten so I don't know if it's any good, but I really, really like the look of it. I imagine it's typical older Windlass fare, though.
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Post by YlliwCir on Apr 19, 2009 19:35:06 GMT
That's cool, JP, I've got a few Windlass', some threaded tho the Rapier/Sword is peened. I was just curious.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2009 20:22:35 GMT
I second JPFranco's enthusiasm for the Italian Cut and Thrust. It was the first replica sword I purchased, and I still think it is the most beautiful. A lot of workmanship went into this sword, with great results, but it has never been given much attention. Buy it if you can!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2009 1:37:15 GMT
Thanks for the link!
How come they still have some of those long discontinued models?
Also, I think they should re-issue (hopefully, with some improvements...) some of those models (Norman, Dunbar, English warsword, French cut and thrust, for example)...
On second thought, better not, so more chances I'll look for my next sword in another maker's lineup...
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