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Post by hotspur on Apr 9, 2009 21:17:54 GMT
Good sir Bill,
You may have touched on this in the past but am not finding blow by blow regarding handling between your Hanwei mort and drag.
I ask because the Cromwell is listing for somewhat of a better than good price. I like the look of the Cromwell blade a whole lot more but I am more interested in how they each point relative to each other. I am also wondering if the Cromwell has a significantly larger basket and one more inquiry whether a magnet will stick to the basket.
Thoughts and relevations?
Cheers
Hotspur; there is another backsword in my browsing but the Cromwell may well be a better buy
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2009 10:47:52 GMT
'ello Sir Hotspur, Though I do like both my Hanwei mortuary's , the Cromwell is a much more versitile piece. The standard mortuary #2004 does have a smaller basket & more rapier-esk blade. www.myarmoury.com/review_casi_mort.htmlAlso just a tid-bit to add to the mix...right now with the exchange rate...Armour Class is a really GOOD buy and my total preference & suggestion for anyone looking for a mortuary hilt. haven't tried the magnet to basket on the Cromwell...will let you know once I get home from work. cheers, Bill
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Post by hotspur on Apr 10, 2009 15:40:45 GMT
Aye Bill,
I do browse the Armour Class pages as well. There are a couple of hangers well within the bounds of the $300 mark. The less expensive of the Cromwell's there does look quite tasty and the other mort you mention in your stable looks great. The KOA Cromwell instant satisfaction equation plays greatly in some of my lists. As the year goes on, it becomes also some fun in hand and possibly resale come the table at the Manville event each fall.
I guess I should venture up the road here to Silvermane and see if they have them to handle and play with.
Cheers
Hotspur; the Cromwell movie was on not long ago
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2009 15:57:20 GMT
aahh.....the old "instant gradification" scenerio.......like most , I understand it all too well. The Cromwell Drogheda mort is one of my favorite cutters in my arsenal. Hope to get out tomorrow with one of the other guys in our group and do some cutting...weather permitting.
Yes, Cromwell the movie...need to drag out my copy and give a viewing...haven't seen it in awhile.
If you do go and give one a test drive...take a pair of leather gloves or gaunlets.....the grip on the Cromwell's are a little rough. I've had several conversations with Blake Pogue (CAS/Hanwei Marketing Director & Roanke Valley Sword Guilde member) about the grip and passing on the suggestion of gettingthe factory to smooth it out a bit or change the wire wrap to a finer gauge.
cheers and good luck on your hunt.
cheers,
Bill
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2009 20:05:20 GMT
hey Glen,
tried the magnet on the Cromwell basket...no stick.....
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Post by hotspur on Apr 11, 2009 20:44:23 GMT
Well sucky ka ka poo poo on that A project I did last summer was mounting a Hanwei spontoon with the intent of browning the whole thing. Get this now. The sopntoon blade and toggle are gooduns for collorin. The threaded portion of the socket is suitable for the same treatmeant. BUT, the langets they very neatly welded to the socket are of stainless I can't easily patina. The shoe for the pole is fine and I had started to mustard it when I discovered the true nature of the rest. Bah and humbug. That would mean whatever the dress on the Cromwell is means it would be hard to rusticate it. I may still fall into grabbing one at that price but I did bid on an Easter present to tide me over. Cheers Hotspur; I really should do a write up on the Hanwei spontoon. It is an amazing toy
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2009 1:10:07 GMT
Beautiful basket hilts. I am wondering about the screws that appear to connect the basket to the pommol. Is that right?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2009 1:39:42 GMT
Beautiful basket hilts. I am wondering about the screws that appear to connect the basket to the pommol. Is that right? Yes....historically correct. a pic of just one of several swords linked to Oliver Cromwell. I took this photo at the Cromwell Museum in Huntingdon, Eng while on holiday visiting my wife's relatives and do research on mortuary's. The curator of the Cromwell Museum - John Goldsmith was very helpful and accommodating at my meeting with him. Photo of the original Cromwell Drogheda mortuary on permanent display at the Royal Armouries - Leeds. cheers, Bill
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2009 3:20:58 GMT
I got a chance to handle today the Hanwei Basket Hilt Mortuary. I really liked it as a practice sword. The blade is a bit of a light weight with very little blade presence. It has the feel of a smallsword more then a broadsword but that is fine for use with minimal armor. The basket hit openings is wide enough so that a cut could get in there and bang up a finger. Covering up the outside with some 3 oz leather will fully protect the hand. I did that with one of my other baskethilts. The issue I find with swords that feel like smallswords is that people will naturally used them like smallswords using mostly wrist actions. A heavier blades will require cuts from elbow and shoulder with assistance from the hips.
As far as the screws on the pommol, thank you Billiam for posting that picture that shows that they are indeed historical. I am a bit concerned however that the screws will loosen up with repeated use. It should not be a problem regardless because screws are easily screwed back in and replaced.
Overall, I like what I saw today in this practice sword. It is good for use with minimal armor and I will consider getting it in the future. The thumb-bone and back of the hand is very exposed so I recommend a half gauntlet.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2009 18:10:40 GMT
I got a chance to handle today the Hanwei Basket Hilt Mortuary. I really liked it as a practice sword. The blade is a bit of a light weight with very little blade presence. It has the feel of a smallsword more then a broadsword but that is fine for use with minimal armor. The basket hit openings is wide enough so that a cut could get in there and bang up a finger. Covering up the outside with some 3 oz leather will fully protect the hand. I did that with one of my other baskethilts. The issue I find with swords that feel like smallswords is that people will naturally used them like smallswords using mostly wrist actions. A heavier blades will require cuts from elbow and shoulder with assistance from the hips. As far as the screws on the pommol, thank you Billiam for posting that picture that shows that they are indeed historical. I am a bit concerned however that the screws will loosen up with repeated use. It should not be a problem regardless because screws are easily screwed back in and replaced. Overall, I like what I saw today in this practice sword. It is good for use with minimal armor and I will consider getting it in the future. The thumb-bone and back of the hand is very exposed so I recommend a half gauntlet. aahhhh...another asimilated to mortuary hilts .....glad I could help to answer your enquiry about the pommel screws. cheers, Bill
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