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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2009 14:03:56 GMT
Are today's damascus steel swords good for actual use like cutting tree limbs and plastic bottles?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2009 20:55:05 GMT
Depends who and how makes them. Branches are not safe for any sword. I learned that hard way.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2009 21:25:51 GMT
Did you have any particular brand or model in mind?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2009 21:57:14 GMT
I've heard DSAs damascus (which looks great, by the way) is as strong as their regular steel, which is pretty impressive as their blades are already ridiculously durable.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2009 22:34:40 GMT
i have been curious about this myself i have a BEAUTIFUL damascus knife and would happily wear it everywhere (if i could get away with it but its like over a foot long) and it seems just as durable as flat steel... but then again this is a knife and is, even at a foot long, a far cry from a full length sword
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Apr 11, 2009 15:45:15 GMT
if done properly, pattern welded steel can be just as strong as monosteel. the problem is that in our price range we run the risk of someone having cut corners. I know that pattern welded bar stock can be purchased from some foundries so it stands to reason that blades could be made cheaply and safely. I have heard a few horror stories but not many. my problem with pattern welded stuff in our price range is that I just don't find most of it appealing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2009 6:20:33 GMT
First of all what is being made these days is not damascus steel, let me just emphasize the not!!! What is made these days is pattern welded steel, in our price range I can't think of many companies besides deepeeka and I don't trust their monosteel blades let alone blades that require such a technical and difficult process to create. The best pattern welded blades use more expensive steels like L6 and 1084 and nickel rich steels as well. Lastly pattern welded steel is designed for just one thing these days and that is purely for aesthetics.
Oh and no sword is designed for cutting tree limbs, if you want to do that get yourself an axe instead.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2009 6:26:50 GMT
An axe... or a chainsaw.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2009 12:30:57 GMT
Today pattern welding isn't in most cases even pattern welding like it was done in the dark ages. Few smiths make real pattern welded blades and they are expensive. Patrick Barta is probably the most famous for the historically correct pattern welding.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2009 20:17:55 GMT
if done properly, pattern welded steel can be just as strong as monosteel. the problem is that in our price range we run the risk of someone having cut corners. I know that pattern welded bar stock can be purchased from some foundries so it stands to reason that blades could be made cheaply and safely. I have heard a few horror stories but not many. my problem with pattern welded stuff in our price range is that I just don't find most of it appealing. I'm with you on this one, Tom- I have yet to see something that tickles my fancy. I think its cool that some still know how to do it, but wasn't it done due to the inferior metals of that era? Now that we can produce better quality steel, the wootz or damascus method no longer applies, except for aesthetic value. I notice swords with those type of blades tend to cost a good deal more for what could actually be a lesser quality sword. IMHO.
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