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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2009 20:37:05 GMT
Hello all
For the last few weeks, I drooled on Cold Steel's website, especially on some of their folding knives (the Rajah, Gunsite serie, Voyager serie and Ti-lite serie). However, I have trouble finding the exact meaning of canadian laws on folding knives (unfortunately, I don't have the link to the relevant laws at the time of this writing ...). I know butterfly knives are strictly illegal. I read somewhere that knives ''that can be opened with one hand'' are illegal, but I am less certain about that one ...
My question is, does any Canadian forumnite here as one of these folders or knows if I can order one of these without having it stuck at customs.
Thanks all
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2009 22:38:33 GMT
Cold Steel mailed me a Rajah as one of the Moyoushi prizes. Here's the list of prohibited weapons from the Canadian Border Services site ( note that long blades like katanas and most fixed blade and folding knives are not on the list ) The following weapons are prohibited from entering Canada:
* automatic knives such as switchblades; * centrifugal knives such as flick knives or butterfly knives; * gravity knives; * mace or pepper spray designed for use on humans; * nunchaku sticks; * shuriken (throwing stars); * manrikigusari or kusari (fighting chains); * finger rings with blades or other sharp objects projecting from the surface; * Taser and stun guns shorter than 480 mm; * crossbows designed for one-handed use; * crossbows 500 mm or shorter; * Constant Companion (belt-buckle knife); * push daggers; * devices shorter than 30 cm concealing a knife blade (e.g. knife-comb); * spiked wristbands; * blowguns; * Kiyoga or Steel Cobra batons (spring batons); * spring-loaded rigid batons (triggered by a button or lever); * morning stars; and * brass knuckles.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2009 22:47:42 GMT
Thanks Morpheus, have karma.
I remember that list from one of the government websites. ''Automatic knives such as switchblades'' and ''gravity knives'', is the Ti-lite one of these ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2009 22:56:44 GMT
A switch blade is something that opens with a switch, like a stilleto, a gravity knife is a knife that opens from inertia. No the Ti-lite is neither, it's a regular liner lock folder.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2009 2:24:47 GMT
just remember this, although you order an item that shouldn't be prohibited, it is all up to the CBSA officer who inspects your package to make the final decision. Now an "assisted open" knife by a company like Kershaw can be a very gray area. Even though they are sold openly in stores here in Canada, I've known a couple people who have had them confiscated by the CBSA.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2009 2:54:00 GMT
That makes a lot of sens Drache, I doubt many custom officers will like the quick-to-draw 6'' blade of the Ti-Lite I consider buying from Warriors & Wonders, since they already have the Ti-Lite in stock and on my side of the border, I guess it is safer to order from them than from a U.S. seller.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2009 3:08:00 GMT
That makes a lot of sens Drache, I doubt many custom officers will like the quick-to-draw 6'' blade of the Ti-Lite I consider buying from Warriors & Wonders, since they already have the Ti-Lite in stock and on my side of the border, I guess it is safer to order from them than from a U.S. seller. I don't think you'll have any problem with it. Even though it might LOOK like a switchblade, it's just a normal folder and not even assisted opening. I've ordered plenty of folders than can be opened "quickly" with just my thumb and never had a problem.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2009 11:59:48 GMT
Your list is exactly the same as ours, except the manrikigusari, are you allowed to import multisectioned chains? Some of the importation laws are somewhat ridiculous. Ok sure concealability but if you are collecting the weapon for the sake of collecting or weapons practise then it should be an exemption. I can't get a decent balisong over here for the life of me, even the balisong practisers are illegal which is blatantly silly in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2009 14:14:01 GMT
Your list is exactly the same as ours, except the manrikigusari, are you allowed to import multisectioned chains? Some of the importation laws are somewhat ridiculous. Ok sure concealability but if you are collecting the weapon for the sake of collecting or weapons practise then it should be an exemption. I can't get a decent balisong over here for the life of me, even the balisong practisers are illegal which is blatantly silly in my opinion. Ya, I don't get the balisong thing. I don't see the threat really. I guess it's because they open so quickly. I don't think nunchuku should be banned either. Another concealable weapon I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2009 14:14:30 GMT
BTW, the Rajah is a BEAST of a knife !
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2009 14:21:15 GMT
nunchuku weren't always banned in Canada. Back in the 80's though they were being used allot by gangs all across Canada. They were easy to buy (due to the martial arts craze of the 80's) and easy to make so the law had to do something.
Now, just because YOU can't import it doesn't mean you can't find something for sale. In martial arts stores you can still find nunchuku since they are used for legitimate purposes in training. Granted for a martial arts store to bring them in requires allot of paperwork and extra money so most just don't bother.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2009 14:30:25 GMT
Actually the balisong I can understand as to why it is banned, it is an extremely fast and deadly weapon with a multitude of uses and if the proponent is good you won't even see it coming. It takes two flicks to open a balisong which can be done in less than a second. The up side is that the balisong is a hard weapon to learn and master, much like the nunchaku. Also I really don't get why three section staffs are illegal. Those things are the least damn concealable weapon there is, even with a rubber band on them to keep them together.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2009 15:17:19 GMT
Welcome to Canada where we ban weapons just based upon looks alone! If it looks too scary, we'll ban it....
This is true mostly for firearms but ties into other weapons as well. They were actually trying to ban karate here in Canada once as well as Katana but that was many years ago (90's I think?)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2009 6:45:05 GMT
Two flicks, I can open my in one flick. Sounds like I'm on the old TV show game that tune. Have they banned the Cold Steel triple action. I haven't got one but they look very interesting. I do have the Ti lites two of the smaller titaniums and one the the large zytel.
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