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Post by Avery on Mar 27, 2009 3:55:24 GMT
In 1997 I bought a sword labeled "Iberia/Philippines". It is a hand and a half like this one, except it has a brass cross guard and pommel. www.casiberia.com/product_details.asp?id=SH2365 In the years I have owned this it has served me well. I have cut things that really shouldn't be cut and the hilt assembly is still as tight as it was when I bought it. The only thing is I can't dismantle it to look at the tang. There is no peen, no retaining nut.....nothing. So...how was the pommel attached? Was the pommel itself heated and then set on the tang to shrink? Don't misunderstand, this is a very good sword, it handles well and the steel takes a great edge. I know it can withstand punishment, I just would like to know about its Assembly. Given that mine is 12yrs old, I also wonder what changes cas/iberia have made to this model,...if any. Edit: Just realized I posted this in general instead of european medieval.., oops.
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Post by randomnobody on Mar 27, 2009 3:59:53 GMT
My wager is an epoxied screw-on pommel.
Apart from that, no idea. I'm not sure much would have changed from yours to the current model, either...save that they may peen them now, I'm not sure...and maybe some revamped handling? I wouldn't look for it, though.
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Post by Avery on Mar 27, 2009 4:05:09 GMT
If its epoxied, the epoxy is stong enough for me to worry about shearing the tang. Over the years I've tried to twist it off, even heated it up a few times,.....nothing.
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Post by randomnobody on Mar 27, 2009 4:12:13 GMT
Hmm... Well, if it's as you say, and there is no recessed nut or peen...it can only be screw-on, and was likely glued as well. However...by now it should certainly be ready to loosen up a bit...especially if you've heated it a few times. I dunno.
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Post by Avery on Mar 27, 2009 4:15:33 GMT
Hmm... I dunno. Yeah, me neither. If it is epoxy, I want to know what kind..... it's some tough stuff!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2009 16:29:12 GMT
I don't know about the hilt construction on that one, but it was originally made in the Philippines. That was one of the first lines that CAS Iberia carried. They were very popular. When CAS merged with Hanwei, CAS requested that Hanwei make those swords. They were improved slightly (peened tangs, better heat treat), and now those are the ones that are currently on sale. I think screwed on with epoxy is a good guess. From my experience these are good beaters and well made, but not all that historically accurate.
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Post by Avery on Mar 27, 2009 18:52:21 GMT
I don't know about the hilt construction on that one, but it was originally made in the Philippines. That was one of the first lines that CAS Iberia carried. They were very popular. When CAS merged with Hanwei, CAS requested that Hanwei make those swords. They were improved slightly (peened tangs, better heat treat), and now those are the ones that are currently on sale. I think screwed on with epoxy is a good guess. From my experience these are good beaters and well made, but not all that historically accurate. Drew I agree with the lack of accuracy. It has no historical counterpart that I've seen. I guess screwed on with epoxy is the most logical solution, but man it must be some great epoxy. I think I paid $100 for it originally, which given its durability, was well worth it. They are good beaters, and as I've said it been kinda abused over the years and has stood up well. I just wish I could safely dimantle to refinish the blade easier, but as they say" Wish in one hand......."
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Post by kidcasanova on Mar 27, 2009 19:15:40 GMT
....get everything you ever dreamed of in the other? Man, my mom used to tell me that all the time when I was a kid.
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Post by Avery on Mar 27, 2009 22:33:32 GMT
....get everything you ever dreamed of in the other? . Well, I suppose in you're into that kinda dreaming.....
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Post by kidcasanova on Mar 28, 2009 0:45:21 GMT
....get everything you ever dreamed of in the other? . Well, I suppose in you're into that kinda dreaming..... I laughed out loud pretty hard at that. Have a karma. ;D
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Post by Avery on Mar 28, 2009 16:07:39 GMT
Well, I suppose in you're into that kinda dreaming..... I laughed out loud pretty hard at that. Have a karma. ;D Lol, thanks. I think I'll try heating the pommel one more time to see if I can break the it loose. If not.....oh well.
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