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Post by alvin on Mar 13, 2009 22:22:03 GMT
I know for a FACT my family has no coat of arms. How do I know this? We were incredibly bloody poor! Hell....many times members of my Family didn't have arms on their coats !!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2009 22:26:33 GMT
I know for a FACT my family has no coat of arms. How do I know this? We were incredibly bloody poor! Hell....many times members of my Family didn't have arms on their coats !!! Hahaha... Those aren't Crests, there Vests!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2009 23:07:54 GMT
What exactly does the Latin mean? Moral Excellence and Brave? Just a guess. Mine interprets to: Always a Knight "Virtue and valour". Bit I like best is there is an arm with a sword(scimitar) held highest on it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2009 2:07:32 GMT
No swords on mine, but it is still pretty cool Hi Chop, me Ma's from Clare - near Ennis. When I was in Clare visiting family all the boys wanted to buy me drinks too ;D I suspect it was not because of my family name though - I was single and a "yank" . My family name is from Cork.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2009 15:17:28 GMT
After doing a fair amount of genealogy there doesn't seem to be any royal blood in our family. There are many early colonists from both New England and New France (my wife's side of the family), and of course many unfinished lines. So, although there may be a family crest with the right name, it is most likely not my family's crest/coat of arms. In my case - Ermine; three cats walking, facing forward and above the shield a helmet with a blue cat attacking and facing forward. Another place to look: www.4crests.com/ with the by-name list here: www.4crests.com/name.htmlTheer's a trick to using 4crests to post your coat of arms here. Find yours, click on it to enlrage, copy the link and add .jpg to the file name. or My wife's family has a nice looking crest.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2009 6:05:33 GMT
My friends you have to stop this family crest thing because looking to make your name more important is a great disrespect to you family name. Your Name is GREAT so leave it be .I can only speek form an irish point of view also i lived in Scotland long enough to know. I was born and breed in Ireland what makes a man great is not a crest or coat of arms its knowledge no matter what country you are from. When did men Or Kings like Brian Boru need a crest to make them a king no a sword passion and pride or Wallace no they got all that bull after they gone so come on lads !!!!!!!!!!!Show respect to you family name hold your sword be a warrior be a man respect you name without the bull!!!! Mac
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Post by hotspur on Mar 15, 2009 14:38:00 GMT
While I agree it is wrong to make assumption of lineage, the truth is that many of us here are quite possibly long lost cousins. The scientific study of lineage has gone now to DNA markers and association but I find the history of migrations fascinating right back to the iron age and beyond for me. For information regarding heraldry one might run a search such as This Linked Search then study trends about different countries and arms, crests, badges, etc. I mentioned a name Burke earlier and here is a basic site some may find interesting to make connections. Actually a few that will come up and useful for serious quests. Burke's peerage, gentry and baronetciesAnother site I bookshelf on and have found quite useful to me is www.british-history.ac.uk/That also leads to national archives, both from the UK and other countries. Another simple search type of research that can mine the depths as far as one wishes to. Not to forget Ellis Island and that foundation www.ellisisland.org/For American's on the board, they may have American Civil War interests (by any name, I have ancestors that warred on both sides) The National Park system includes soldier and sailor search capability. There are many more such archives for military pursuits in many locations worldwide and some records do go back to medieval times. The British history online, for instance. There is a lot of reference work shared there. cwar.nps.gov/civilwar/The histories of heraldry is fascinating in and of itself. The history of flags and symbology likewise is an international study. There are also tomes of Japanese family and clan information. It is truly an international endeavor for research. Cheers Hotspur; I use the Percy badge symbology out of historical research and interest. While I have no knowledge in direct peerage or lineage of the house, my ancestors surely did trudge the same roads in time
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Post by hotspur on Mar 15, 2009 15:13:04 GMT
Here is the ship on which my maternal great-grandfather arrived at Ellis Island in 1909. Guiseppe Picazio was a wheelright born in Spain. In Somerville and Cambridge Massacheusetts, became a carpenter and did parquet floors that still exist in many buildings and homes today. His wife Angelina and my grandmother Teresa arrived from Italy a few years later but I still don't have the ship records. I know very little of their history on the outskirts of Naples. Somewhat ironic that one of my aunts married a family that grew up in the same village adjacent to Naples. My maternal genealogy records are difficult at best. My mothers father was named King and all I have of it are brief discussions of him as a constable of Cambridge, Ma. On my paternal side, it has taken me full circle in the American history and finally made the ties missing between the Virginias and the Carolinas, which led to western expansion. Some family researchers had been in denial about the origin but I have finally linked the generations and summed up answers to anamoly that had persisted. associated families were Morgan, Terry, Thomas, Ransom, Beck, Crawford and more. Histories of all intertwine as the families move on to Missouri from Kentucky and shadow those such as Boone. Cheers Hotspur; a bit of Latin origin there in more recent centuries
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2009 15:53:44 GMT
I've traced my ancestors on my mothers side in a straight backwards line to a small valley in Norway, Bjørkedalen. In a thousand years my family has moved 20 km, and the old family farm is still in activity as it was a thousand years ago. The family is first registered in Kalfskinn (Calfskin, a tax register) in the early 1300s. During the viking age the people from this valley were known as good shipbuilders and warriors, and they have built boats since. Here a pic from the place today.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2009 18:38:12 GMT
Its a pity we cant get an Assassin's Creed genetic memory visualiser thingy and just back track a persons DNA and find out their whole history and what happened to each ancestor ...... would be so awesome Yes, that would...it'd be great to be able to live through an ancestor's life, kind of give you an idea of how things were so that you could better appreciate where you are- or just relive a time you feel more acclimated to/for...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2009 21:20:49 GMT
Here's another great link for learning about heraldry: www.baronage.co.uk/splashindex.html. The site hasn't been updated in a while, but there is still plenty of good information there, though it can be hard to locate. I think the thing is defunct and is now an internet fossil. I would also suggest reading this web page www.fleurdelis.com/nofamilycrest.htm which clarifies just exactly what a "crest" is and how it relates to the coat of arms. Although this website belongs to a commercial designer of contemporary "coats of arms," this page is accurate and informative. My own genealogical inquiries have been rather interesting. My family (Hardesty) hails from the west riding of Yorkshire, from the village of Fewston and the area surrounding area. My maternal grandfather was a Stebbins (orig. Stebbing) and the family hails from Essex, England, in the area surrounding Braintree. The village of Stebbing and Stebbing Brook reflect that name. The line has been traced back to the early 1500's. My father's ancestry also includes Fullers (English, with Welsh and royal connections) and his mother was a Fullerton (Scots/Irish). It's a lot of fun. For the record, I am not in any way entitled to display any coat of arms, nor am I aware of any Hardesty ancestor who was, despite a crest associated with the Hardesty name appearing in Fairbairn's Crests.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2009 22:22:48 GMT
aceltone, Most of us (I think) that are indulging in this whimsy of Crests and such, are simply having fun with it, but there may be a few that genuine needs to hear your words of caution. I applaud your concern, +1. Thank you for caring. I assure you that in my case, like so many others here, are more interested in my Ancestors, whom I might be related too, and when and where I came from. The Crest I have hanging on my wall was given to me from a loved one in good faith and is on my wall to honor them and their gift. I doubt very seriously if my Family even had a Crest. I don’t real care whether it’s authentic or not, I’m having fun. In that manor, I am honoring my Family's name.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2009 22:30:01 GMT
Very interesting to read your lineage Gentlemen. Thanks for the links also.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2009 22:31:21 GMT
Drache, Unfortunately, I was unable to find an image, however, I did find something that may be of interest to you: the description at the bottom does seem to match what is on house of names. edit: i also found another one: www.thetreemaker.com/family-crest-g/geiselbrecht.htmlthis crest, however, does not match. i know that it's not quite your surname, so that perhaps might explain the difference.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2009 23:55:38 GMT
I did a little of this research myself: Me: My Father and Me in 1973: His Father (My Grandfather) in 1942: My Great Grandfather and Great Grandmother in 1917: His Father in the later 1800s: And lastly, my Great Great Great Grandfather in 1862-1863: That is the first picture taken we can find. We entered the US in the eastern PA area in 1790. Our family were German wrought iron artisans / blacksmiths that came from both England (where thay had immigrated in the 1600s) and directly from Germany. Records with the family name go back to the mid-1300s and a version of the name goes back to the 1100s (though direct relation has not been proven). Definately something that everyone should delve into! Don't lose heart though. Not all families had an official crest. Many lived under the crest of another family or nobility in the region. It depends on where your family is from and how you can prove your direct lineage. Just because your last name is Pembroke might not mean that the English name Pembroke's family crest applies to you. Alot of the online family crest generators are stupidly incorrect, because they go by phonetic spellings and will generate the exact same crest for 100 different names because they have the same beginning syllable. The only way to be sure is to wet thumb it through records, census data, and historical documents until you can absolutely with 100% certianty prove your family line with no gaps whatsoever.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2009 0:02:15 GMT
Great post odi, love the pics... Hey, they all look like you. Very cool!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2009 23:56:31 GMT
I know its all for fun Rideout thanks for the karma i would not like to see any one waste money or time on it that all
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