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Post by Kilted Cossack on Feb 28, 2009 3:24:48 GMT
Ladies and Gents: Let's suppose you were a hard charging Mongolian, from "back in the day" (say, Genghis to Tamerlane timeframes, or even later). What, exactly, would the sword at your hip look like? "Curvy and slashy," that part I have guessed for myself. How curvy? How long? How hilted? My guesses are a fairly short, moderately curved, round guard sword . . . maybe along the lines of a dao or willow leaf saber? I've seen Mongolians, and I've seen the Prizhevalskii horse, and it's a shaggy little brute. Maybe the Mongolians then weren't the same as Mongolians now . . . but given their domination, I think they probably are still a pretty good expression of the genotype of the original "Genghis to Tamerlane" Mongols. And in our chosen area of focus (sub-US$300 swords), what would come closest to sort of, kind of, to a degree, approximating a Mongolian sword in near pitch darkness on horseback from fifty yards, on a moonless night? I might never buy a sword that approximates a Mongolian sword (on horseback, at night, from distance) but I'd sure be interested to know what they'd look like, and I really liked the review of the Hanwei practical kung fu sword, found here: www.sword-buyers-guide.com/chinese-broad-swords.htmlAny thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2009 3:44:20 GMT
Very interesting. Resembles the Chinese Broadsword. At little expensive at the upper end of that $129-$219 price range. Hanwei practical swords usually come in closer to $100. I would shop it and not pay a penny more then $129. At that price its really worth having.
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Post by ecovolo on Feb 28, 2009 4:38:49 GMT
A website shows that it looks more like an early scimitar/shamshir: www.derech.net/taichi_sword_09.htm (On the illustration, it's the top weapon). The niuweidao appears to be a descendant of that weapon. Looks like it's the next best thing to buy. --Edward P.S. Globalgear is selling prop replicas of the swords used in the movie "Mongol": www.globalgear.com.au/prod3491.htm. . . I don't know if this replica is exactly period; my knowledge of Chinese swords is limited.
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Post by Kilted Cossack on Feb 28, 2009 14:08:20 GMT
Thank you, gentlemen. I know more now than I knew last night (and knowing is half the battle! whispered some cartoon show from my youth, in my ear).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2009 17:59:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2009 18:32:51 GMT
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Post by Kilted Cossack on Mar 2, 2009 20:03:36 GMT
Opferous:
Salve, bratushik!
That was a wonderful link, and a fascinating sword. I liked it, quite a bit.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2009 23:23:20 GMT
Yes that is an excellent peice but, its $6000!!! what about that other sword? and does anyone know about that website?
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Post by Kilted Cossack on Mar 4, 2009 14:23:54 GMT
Not a clue, not a clue.
On the other hand, the Houston Museum of Natural Science is having a Genghis Khan exhibit currently, and I'll be attending on Saturday with ankle biters in tow. Odds favor at least one sword being on display. Yippee!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2009 21:57:24 GMT
Yeah me neither, they appear to be out of europe but thry look fine to me, I sent an e-mail but havent gotten a response yet
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2009 22:03:38 GMT
Well, considering the Phil Tom piece and the time period, the Mongol saber is probably closest to the yanmaodao, or goose quill saber. Haven't really found too many of those on the market www.kultofathena.com/product~item~SH2380~name~Hanwei+Yang+Saber+-+Sharpened.htm#This is somewhat close in profile and length, but the hilt doesn't really match and, if the manufacturer description is to believed, is more of a light/agile performer than a no-nonsense saber. Haven't handled this before, but it could be useful as a practice blade though. www.kultofathena.com/product~item~KRSDAOQ~name~Kris+Cutlery+Dao-Qing.htmMuch closer but still not as much straight-to-curve profile as desired or so I take from the picture. The hilt is closer in shape for a dedicated cutter though. Haven't used this one either, and it'd require sharpening. As for the samarkandia mongol saber, very SLO. Not sure I'd be even willing to pay that price to put it on my wall.
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