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Post by Kilted Cossack on Feb 14, 2009 19:27:20 GMT
Ladies and gentlemen: I was wondering if anyone had any experience with the Hungarian saber as offered by Windlass? www.museumreplicas.com/p-239-hungarian-saber.aspxI know squat-all about it, but for some reason it speaks to me. I've tried searching, but perhaps my google-fu is weak. Anyone? Buehler?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2009 7:38:12 GMT
I don't know anything about it, but i am interested in this as well being Hungarian myself. I'll look into it... This may be my first European sword, how fitting that it should be one of my ancestors.
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Post by shadowhowler on Feb 15, 2009 11:23:41 GMT
Nice looking sword... looks like it might handle like a cross between a saber and a katana...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2009 12:39:56 GMT
My friend has actually been looking at this one for quite some time now. He does have a Hungarian ancestry but the sword itself does look like it could make out to be something pretty great. I hope he gets it so that we could do some cutting with it. I say go for it if you're interested.
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Post by genocideseth on Feb 15, 2009 12:42:14 GMT
I was also looking at this... Hmmmm...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2009 22:20:25 GMT
Funnily enough I looked at this one to, would have bought it probably but unfortunately nobody has it here in Australia.
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Post by jpfranco on Feb 15, 2009 23:28:38 GMT
This past July, I was at Reliks and I asked Chris about this sword. His exact words were: "It's OK, it is a little blade heavy."
I too was interested in this sword but am now waiting to be able to handle it before buying it. I guess I will try to do just that the next time I go to Reliks from my annual "pilgrimage".
Hope this helps!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2009 23:53:16 GMT
Hmm, blade heavy always worries me a little, I like blade balanced. By blade heavy does he mean that it is tip heavy or what?
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Post by jpfranco on Feb 16, 2009 0:30:34 GMT
I think that's what he meant.
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Post by hotspur on Feb 16, 2009 1:29:31 GMT
The Reliks site does have better pictures of it. www.reliks.com/merchant.ihtml?pid=2882If the anachronistic looks and weight aren't an issue, I guess it could fill someone's niche. My survey (just my opinion) says that the sword could shed a pound of weight for a sabre that size. For some that might be revering the past, I would look elsewhere to honor an ancestral votive. The hilt is akward in it's execution of form and will lend less to any handling characteristics. The Windlass ethnic and historical swords are kind of a mix of good and bad as far as the aesthetics and what they publish for statistics. Words that come to mind about many of them are "meh, yark, nu huh, nope" A look at old karabella and kilij evolutions of swords from the middle east will give folk an idea of what would be really neat for someone like Windlass to produce. I have to say (imo) this isn't a very bright star for them to shine. Cheers Hotspur; then again, someone may really be in love with it
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2009 1:55:07 GMT
Their shamshir is a better option. They should just bite the bullet and make a freakin' yatagan already.
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Post by Kilted Cossack on Feb 16, 2009 18:42:10 GMT
Hotspur:
I was hoping you'd chip in your two kilobucks! (My opinion is worth the proverbial two cents, but I tend to value your experience a goodly bit more than that.) A pound heavy, eh? Well, fiddlefarts, as me dear old Granny used to say. From earlier readings here and at a couple of other forums, it seems that Windlass (and other Indian-sourced swords sold by Windlass) is hit or miss, and generally misses little details like distal taper.
bloodwraith:
I vastly prefer the overall style of the Hungarian saber to the more curved (curvaceous?) shamshir and 1796 style sabers . . . sigh, something about the moderately curved blade and the Euro-style hilt and guard treatment speaks to me.
James Gall and arlion:
I have been serially fascinated by the various peoples of Europe (and, indeed, Central Asia). Maybe I'm too multi-culti, but I can sympathize intensely with the various, at times clashing, national epochs, and can understand that who the good guys are frequently depends on who's telling the tale. The Hungarians have long been one of my "favorite peoples" of Europe.
jpfranco:
Thanks for the information, which seems to be in line with the general opinion of this sword.
I appreciate everyone's responses. My enthusiasm for the sword is dampened, but that's probably a good thing, if it's an anachronistic, blade heavy "interpretation" of a Hungarian saber. My general approach is to not care so much about historical accuracy in terms of construction, but prizing historical accuracy in terms of feel and response. See? I've just barely joined SBG, and already I'm learning things.
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