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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2009 23:17:58 GMT
This is one of the few conversations I find interesting but I have NO IDEA what you all are talking about. Is Supper Troll a person? at some other forum? or is this a specific type of behavior you are all talking about? This looks to be one of those threads where the original post was deleted, so it makes it hard to follow. Is not this thread, itself, an example of trolling? If one has a problem with a member of this forum, take it to the mods (or Paul if you feel it's serious enough). No good can come from starting a thread about it in the public forums.
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Post by Dave(utilityslave) on Feb 10, 2009 1:14:02 GMT
UGH!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2009 1:41:20 GMT
What happened to Salvatore, he's displayed as guest.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2009 1:42:18 GMT
Jeeze. I'm a pretty good mediator (I've been titled the unofficial counselor at my high school), but unless we know the full story, this will continue to be an argument between spur and sal, with little snipits from others.
Sal, I feel nothing but empathy for ya. I've made some mistakes in the past as well. In middle school, I acted like a total A-hole to everyone, and it's continued to follow me with certain people to this very day. I know what you're going through. Those certain people will take any chance they can get to try and bring up said past in the hopes of turning people against you once again.
Spur, maybe sal was a d-bag at one point. I don't know. But why hold on to a grudge bro? Grudge's always end up eating you up until you're a shell of your former self. I've held on to grudges before, and no good ever came out of them. They just made me a miserable person until I learned to let them go. Remember man, to forgive, well, that right there, that's divine.
But please, let's just hear the full story from both parties before things get even more heated, maybe it will help cool things down.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2009 1:46:21 GMT
Yup, it's mid-winter. Doesn't matter if it's sword forums, Jeep forums, quilting forums, or basket weaving forums, things always seem to get a bit heated this time of year. Hang in there, my friends, Spring is coming !! i hear ya randy. Comments such as these maybe. 11-22-2007, 02:54 AM
Haha, I nearly fell over laughing when I saw this thread! When I want to go to a place where people take the smallest pettiest things seriously, I will keep in mind to go here! Honestly, how can small little things move you people? I have to deal with ignorance and the overly irrational questions and statements of those who couldn't care for the likes of me, or what I stand for. Who cares? If you guys hadn't already noticed, I do some of these things just to see how you would react, not for some stupid repetitive moment of attention. Haha, very nice! The slightest twinge sets them off again! Haha, I have learned so many terribly horrible things here! seeing a butchered man with depressingly low morale and ideals and dreams that have been slashed to bits! Don't you just love the warm fuzzy feeling all around? Hahaha
Cheers Hotspur; I'm sure many may not recall that but some may recognize the styleYes, I am not afraid, hotspur. That was my comment 2 years ago. It was the comment I made to get kicked off SFI, because I was sick of being ridiculed(Don't try and justify anything). I figured I go out with a bang, I suppose. I changed, get over it. I did not know forum etiquette, it was my first forum. Can we leave it at that? I'm close to closing this account as well, now. I thought maybe it was worth staying here, but if you've still got a personal vendetta, say something. I suppose you kept it, in case I actually was in trouble... Disgusting. Thanks, Sal i vote to get sal back. people often regret saying things in hindsight... the exact same thing happened to me the other day. remember, 'we are all growing, day by day, no one ever stops or finishes growing, no one.' and in further defense to sal, not that i even think its needed, sfi seems (to me at least) like a VERY harsh place.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2009 1:47:40 GMT
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Post by shadowhowler on Feb 10, 2009 1:57:09 GMT
Uh... WTF?!? I guess all of this *MIGHT* make since of the OP was still present... as it is, I am completly mystified.
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Feb 10, 2009 2:00:34 GMT
COME BACK!!!!!!!!! Sal.... I always liked your posts.... Are you sure you have to leave? Stuff like this always blows over pretty fast. We'll all miss you, and you won't gain anything by leaving. In fact, you'll probably LOSE quite a bit that you could learn in the future if you stayed... A Sal-friendly forumite, Slayer
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2009 2:09:23 GMT
COME BACK!!!!!!!!! Sal.... I always liked your posts.... Are you sure you have to leave? Stuff like this always blows over pretty fast. We'll all miss you, and you won't gain anything by leaving. In fact, you'll probably LOSE quite a bit that you could learn in the future if you left*... A Sal-friendly forumite, Slayer A Sal-friendly forumite, Ric, totally agrees.
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Post by Dave(utilityslave) on Feb 10, 2009 2:28:22 GMT
Sal said bye in the Cafe!
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Post by shadowhowler on Feb 10, 2009 2:58:05 GMT
Ugh... so he pulled a "rammstein"... I have NO idea what this is all about, and this thread doesn't really make since of it with the missing post(s)... but I know that the 'dramatic exit' is pointless.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2009 3:02:09 GMT
Haha, pulled a "rammstien", I love it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2009 6:42:07 GMT
Haha, pulled a "rammstien", I love it. At least this time I've got nothing to do with it. I like Sal. I like Glen as well. I don't spend much, if any time at SFI anymore...for various reasons...but I've still got an account there, and always will unless I'm kicked out. Wonder why that is when I don't go there?? Oh yeah, it's because I didn't delete the account after writing a goodbye letter stating the various personal injustices I perceive as directed at me as my reasons for doing so. If I don't feel 'loved' in a certain place...I don't bother to delete my account, I just don't go back. Well, actually I usually don't care enough to wonder whether I'm loved or not...it's the internet! If I don't like it there (or the overall attitude there) I just don't frequent the place as much, if at all (see the above commentary regarding SFI). Some people on forums are my friends...some little more than acquaintences, some not even that. But if they're friends, they'll be there when/if I do go back, acquaintences probably didn't even notice I was gone...and the others clearly got along fine without me to begin with, just as I did them. The above isn't a bash at you Sal...just my feelings on the matter in general. You may feel completely different (clearly you do actually...or you wouldn't have done this the way you did), which is cool enough I suppose...it's just not something I understand is all. If you get tired of eating Chicken Soup...you don't have a sit down with it...you eat something else, then when you feel like Chicken Soup again...guess what? It's still sitting there on the shelf waiting for you. However, if you throw said Chicken Soup out in a fit of irritation...when you feel like Chicken Soup again...hmm, guess you just go to the store and get some more =D. Good luck wherever your wind takes you. Cris
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Post by slav on Feb 10, 2009 7:06:05 GMT
To continue your analogy...if Sal someday wants to come back to our "store" with a nice clean plate [bowl, rather] ready to fill with a nice fresh can of Chicken Soup, then he is more than welcome. In fact, I think it'd be a pretty darn good idea. I can see some logic behind doing what he did.
It's sometimes nice to leave for oneself the possibility of a completely fresh start, should one ever choose to return to something in the [distant, even] future.
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Post by Marc Ridgeway on Feb 10, 2009 7:07:19 GMT
First of all , I don't think Glen was holding a grudge. Sal made quite a spectacle at SFI ... as I remember... All Glen was saying , is don't throw rocks when you live in a glass house...
There were a couple of threads lately where Sals contributions seemed a bit inflammatory themselves , and a bit insulting towards SBG.
I hate to see him go really, he is a different sal than the one that showed up at SFI two years ago... and I do wish he had stuck around... but hes made his growing distaste for our community known several times lately... if he's unhappy, perhaps traveling on will help, and perhaps he'll find his way back one day. I have no idea why people say SFI seems like such a harsh place... I see fewer arguments there than here... they are vocal about shoddy swords or irresponsible behavior , but whats wrong with that? At SFI as everywhere, you makw youe own bed .... those who present themselves well, or who take gentle correction well when they don't , will get along nicely , the same is true of any place , virtual or actual...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2009 7:36:47 GMT
I have no idea why people say SFI seems like such a harsh place... I see fewer arguments there than here... they are vocal about shoddy swords or irresponsible behavior , but whats wrong with that? At SFI as everywhere, you makw youe own bed .... those who present themselves well, or who take gentle correction well when they don't , will get along nicely , the same is true of any place , virtual or actual... Not to change the subject, or rather, continue this offshoot beyond this one more post... But I never had an actual problem at SFI. I never was the center of an issue, or even involved in any issues there either. But...what I see there in general is something I don't like. It's not the membership as a whole...I like 99% of the people that post there (well that I've noticed of course). It's that the 1% I don't particularly care for holds such huge sway, and have so completely colored the forum in their particular shade of choice...that there's simply no way to frequent the place without being constantly face to face with them. Just to be clear...I in no way mean the ones that post here on occasion either. As I said, I genuinely like Glen, and Dave as well (and have nothing against such genuine people as Gus and Tinker of course). Just a couple people I'd rather not be around (that probably don't even know who I am)...and so, unless I'm VERY bored, I simply don't. No dramatics, no big speil as to why I don't go there anymore. I just...don't =D. Anyhow, just wanted to clarify that so it wasn't thought that I was disparaging the board as a whole. SFI is a great place for learning in general, and excellent for getting your feet wet...but it's a good idea to have backup avenues to research and verify what you've read...as, on occasion, the BS can get pretty deep in an effort to steer the Japanese sword market in a direction 'the few' want it to go in. Anyway, I've said enough, again my apologies for dragging this in another direction. Carry on! =D Cris
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Feb 10, 2009 9:27:15 GMT
Well I know Sal will come back some day. Maybe come back as another ID and try a fresh approach bro? It's all good. Places like this will always be full of ego's looking for justification. I'm not as prevalent a member as I maybe once was or could be. You'll notice many of my posts are said in jest, and I avoid those "I'm right, your wrong" type discussions. I have no space for the little things that people argue about.
It's a big world and there is plenty of room in it for your Glen Hotspurs and so forth. Just take it with a grain of salt. Learning to accept other ego's and take the "lower" or 'wrong' stance will make YOU the strong one.
Love you all guys.
Now, lets make some swords...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2009 15:03:02 GMT
I really dunno what happened either but this thread has been intresting to read. And I gotta say thanks Hotspur for the link to that site, haha gave me alot of laughes!
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Post by hotspur on Feb 10, 2009 16:30:33 GMT
I really dunno what happened either but this thread has been intresting to read. And I gotta say thanks Hotspur for the link to that site, haha gave me alot of laughes! The site offers an ample cross section of interaction on the internet. In the grand scheme of things, boards such of these are fairly new. Especially true of many new internet voyagers. A fascination of this venue seems to be analyzng what goes on someplace else. Cheers Hotspur; what the thread had to do with swords is quite lacking in content or context
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Post by OldSchool on Feb 10, 2009 19:53:24 GMT
If I don't feel 'loved' in a certain place...I don't bother to delete my account, I just don't go back. Well, actually I usually don't care enough to wonder whether I'm loved or not...it's the internet! If I don't like it there (or the overall attitude there) I just don't frequent the place as much, if at all (see the above commentary regarding SFI). Some people on forums are my friends...some little more than acquaintences, some not even that. But if they're friends, they'll be there when/if I do go back, acquaintences probably didn't even notice I was gone...and the others clearly got along fine without me to begin with, just as I did them. The above isn't a bash at you Sal...just my feelings on the matter in general. You may feel completely different (clearly you do actually...or you wouldn't have done this the way you did), which is cool enough I suppose...it's just not something I understand is all. If you get tired of eating Chicken Soup...you don't have a sit down with it...you eat something else, then when you feel like Chicken Soup again...guess what? It's still sitting there on the shelf waiting for you. However, if you throw said Chicken Soup out in a fit of irritation...when you feel like Chicken Soup again...hmm, guess you just go to the store and get some more =D. I don't think that could have been said any better. +1
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