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Post by genocideseth on Feb 3, 2009 6:55:13 GMT
I imagine a medieval sword. It is one handed, light despite it's obvious authority in the blade. Power full chops, yet not heavy enough to use all your energy. It is also quite durable and a decent thruster. It is longer than say, a Katana, but not long enough to make it unwieldly (not too sure if that is a word). The blade also has a slight distilling taper.
What sword would fit this description? It can be a type of sword or even a specific model of sword. And try keep it around, if not under 300$.
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Post by genocideseth on Feb 3, 2009 7:51:28 GMT
So far I have rounded it off to these: VA Angus Trim Practical Arming Sword Windlass Classic Medieval Sword(?) VA Angus Trim Castile Sword Darksword Medieval knight(?) A well built Viking Sword (Not sure which one).
I do not know too much about these swords other than they seem to meet my requirements. I don't mind whippy-ness, as long as it doesn't affect the cutting. And as far as thrusting goes... just as long as it can pierce flesh... And maybe leather armor.
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Post by kidcasanova on Feb 3, 2009 8:04:51 GMT
The Classic Medieval, Castle and the Viking swords (just using Type X's in general) aren't going to be the decent thrusters you're looking for. You'll want something a little later in period (perhaps an XII or an XIII). The DSA Knight is supposed to be under 3 lbs and they make their swords rather pointy and stiff (so you'd be able to make okay thrusts with it), but it's not longer than a katana. Supposed to be their best arming sword, though, so if you decide on DSA, go with that one.
The VA Practical Arming is a powerful cutter with decent thrusting capabilities (with only a slightly spatulate tip). It's not going to be a great thruster but you should be able to thrust through bottles with it.
Out of your list, I'd pick the VA Practical. It's stiff, has distal tapering, can somewhat thrust and has a forward POB to assist in the cut. Not to mention you can take it apart for customization. Outside of that list, and if you don't need a sword in a hurry, I'd wait until later this year for the VA Crusader to come out. Similar blade as the Practical Arming, but much higher quality, and the base version should be sub-300.
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Post by genocideseth on Feb 3, 2009 8:19:17 GMT
Thanks! I have been eyeing that sword anyway. Hopefully it will be out by March though, which is when I expect a serious cash flow, along with previously saved money (working on it). I am estimating (hoping for) a reach of of 400-500$. If not, then perhaps 200-300$. If I gather around 500$ I am hoping to get a BKS custom, based off of an arming sword. But in General, my money is on the VA Practical Arming. Hopefully the Crusader though... Let me specify one thing though, thrusting is not too much of a biggie. As long as it is capable of thrusting, I am happy. But yea, it would be nice.
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Post by genocideseth on Feb 3, 2009 8:50:38 GMT
My goal is to find a sword perfect for me. Something worthy of my unworthy name. A sword I can call my personal sword. A custom sword is my best option, but it also may be out of my price range (Unless I make the hilt myself). I want a sword I can use with one Arm (May rule out the Darksword, but Maybe not), as I fight best with one arm.
On a side note, how does one know what is right for them (Sword wise) without actually handling it? I don't have a decent sword shop anywhere close, and even if I did, I would not leave it to manufacturers to do justice to a certain type of sword, as their model my not do justice, or do too much justice to a certain sword type. I also tend to resonate with Arming and Viking swords, but anything else remotely similar will do...
And structural integrity is a must.
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Post by musicalpoo on Feb 3, 2009 9:51:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2009 9:58:49 GMT
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Post by genocideseth on Feb 3, 2009 10:05:46 GMT
Well, if it is in my budget, I will definitely purchase it. I am just wondering if it is or not. I have to wait for Matthew to get back on me so I can ask him. I don't wish to leave him with to many questions to answer. If I cannot afford a custom sword, or even a blade and pommel, I may have to go with production, which is not necessarily bad option, but I would prefer a custom. And as for your option Musicalpoo, what do you know of the structural integrity? I imagine to weight won't be too big an issue. Also, keep in mind. If I am to purchase a production sword, I may HAVE to get it from Reliks to keep it in my price range. Shipping from U.S.A and including the taxes, and not to mention U.S dollars converted to the Canadian Dollar. So ya, I may be stuck with very limited options, depending on how the incarnate of fortune thinks of me during the time of my money receiving.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2009 11:35:30 GMT
Right now with the exchange rate being what it is...Armour Class of Scotland would be an exceptional option. The wait time would be a factor, but for a top quality sword from them, it would surely be worth it by all means. Armour Class are highly over looked, but make some of the best stuff (IMO and alot of the UK folks opinion) available at a very reasonable price point. www.armourclass.com/Data/Pages/Medieval_Main.htmcheers, Bill
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Post by kidcasanova on Feb 3, 2009 12:36:40 GMT
I own the Swedish Viking and it is a very, VERY whippy blade. It would probably cut well (I was too disappointed to cut with it) but it's far too flexible for the thrust.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2009 12:46:49 GMT
Definitely type XI. Longer than most other singlehanders, quite acute point for thrusting, and still a mighty cutter. The blade is narrower than X,XII or XIII so it is not heavy. I just can't remember one for a $300.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2009 12:51:29 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2009 13:32:11 GMT
Seth, How about this one? www.kultofathena.com/product~item~501016~name~Soldier+Of+God+Crusader+Sword.htm34" blade 5 1/2" POB 2 lbs 12.5 ozs total weight 0.175 - 0.130" distal taper Slightly spatulate tip, flattened diamond cross section blade with a good spring temper. This sword has a good blade presence, so it's not a fencing sword. The blade is stiff enough to thrust IMO, but it really shines as a swinger. As for cutting, it is second only to my Side Sword.
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Post by shadowhowler on Feb 3, 2009 14:03:01 GMT
Seth: Like you say... to really discover which sword best fits you is hard... even more so when you can not feel and handle them. Guessing what might feel best from statistics and pictures is hit and miss. That said, I'll address some of your questions... The Crusader sword, while a more attractive version of the VA practical Arming sword... may NOT offer a base version AT ALL. The signature version wont be out anywhere NEAR march, maybe not even this year. If it does come out this year it won't be till the end and, as I said, may not offer a base version. I recently learned the base vrsion of the Bristol won't be avalible till next year... and the signature version of the Bristol is coming out in a month or so. So... if you are waiting for a base Crusader sword, you may be waiting a LONG time, and it may never come. As Kid mentioned already... the Castile and other Viking style swords would not be great for thrusting. That style of sword was all about slashing and chopping. There was not much in they war of armour when those blads were popular, so no major need for thrusting. I would go with the following: The VA Practical Arming sword. (Looks like you can't go wrong with this one... *I* want one very much.) Generation 2 Henry V Sword. (Another one of few production swords left on my buy list. Check out what shooterMike does with this sword... armsofvalour.com/miva/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=AOVL&Category_Code=ICIB ) Windlass Oakeshott Type XIV (Yup, you guessed it... another on my buy list. Everyone has good things to say about this sword, very good cut and trust one handed sword.)
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Post by genocideseth on Feb 3, 2009 14:03:36 GMT
So far I added these to my "interest" list: Windlass Ulfberht Sword Windlass Sticklestad Viking Sword DSA Squire DSA Saxon Sword
What do you guy's think?
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Post by kidcasanova on Feb 3, 2009 14:07:59 GMT
Only one thing to say: Good luck finding a Ulfberht....Maybe you can haggle it off of Sean so he can get his hands on my VA Practical. ;D ;D
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Post by shadowhowler on Feb 3, 2009 14:13:04 GMT
Only one thing to say: Good luck finding a Ulfberht....Maybe you can haggle it off of Sean so he can get his hands on my VA Practical. ;D ;D Kid's right about that... the Ulfberht is hard to find... it's a popular sword that Windlass discontenued (becuase they are lame like that) and it's a VERY good cutter... but it has a spatula tip so it's no good at al for thrusting. Here is our own ShooterMike showing off again... www.sword-buyers-guide.com/ulfberht.html I do have this sword... PM me if your interested.
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Post by kidcasanova on Feb 3, 2009 14:19:56 GMT
Windlass IS very lame like that. I will never understand their business plan. Make a massive amount of sub-par items, and a select few wonderful pieces, and consistently discontinue production of the good stuff. I mean, I'm all for a company trying new things, but usually they do that to figure out what they do right.
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Post by genocideseth on Feb 3, 2009 14:21:50 GMT
They should start discontinuing their shoddy swords and keep the good ones. Reliks has them for sale, but they are not in stock... Odd... And PM sent.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2009 14:53:27 GMT
So far I added these to my "interest" list: Windlass Ulfberht Sword Windlass Sticklestad Viking Sword DSA Squire DSA Saxon Sword What do you guy's think? Of these, Sticklestadt. I handled Sticklestadt and Ulfberht and while everyone praises Ulfberht, I wasn't really impressed with it. It is a good light cutter but it is not what a viking sword should feel like. Weight is perfect, about 2.5lb, but too much weight is in the hilt and the blade is too thin and light. But this is only my opinion. I didn't handled any DSA swords so I won't comment.
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