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Post by ebsw0820e on Jan 22, 2009 11:12:16 GMT
I've seen the myarmoury review. But who here owns one? Tell us your experience. I had chance to handle one recently, and the condition of the factory edge was just a little... well... blunt. Not the "razor sharp" I see being quoted here and there. It looks like they're being made with a convex grind? Cutting anything at all was out of the question. I am told the sword in question was purchased sharp from the official website.
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Jan 22, 2009 14:32:29 GMT
Sometimes an edge 'feels' not-so-sharp, but would slice you to the bone if you ran your finger down the blade. I can't have any way to know about this particular instance, but that would be my guess. Then again, I'm no expert by a long shot, lol, so I may be entirely incorrect.
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Post by ebsw0820e on Jan 22, 2009 15:06:59 GMT
I'm familiar with knives and sharpening and all of that. Rubbing across it hard with my thumb didn't cut either.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2009 16:33:09 GMT
Okay, that convex edge your so down on...well that is what swords are SUPPOSE to have. And for a sword, yes the gen 2 ones are considered the one sharp side. As for cutting with the lucerene, the issue won't be the sharpness of the edge but the blade style. The gen 2 black prince/lucerene act just like a XVa should...i.e. very hard to cut with...but thrusts like there is no tommarow...especially when half swording. However, I can cut mats and bottles with these swords just fine...and they are great because they will give you very good feedback when you screw up so it is good for training to get good form.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2009 16:39:13 GMT
I have a Gen 2 Lucerene. After regripping the terrible pin skin leather that is on the hilt, it's a superb sword. Cuts well, thrust well, exceptionally fast. It does require a bit more force than usual to cut but I've destroyed two liter bottles as well as one liter and half liter water bottles with it and milk jugs. Great weapon, especially after a regrip. You won't regret it.
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Post by ebsw0820e on Jan 22, 2009 17:14:16 GMT
a cut & thrust sword is "very hard to cut with"?
then what good is it
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2009 17:45:34 GMT
Its not that hard to cut with, I actually found it good to cut with. It just requires a little more force than usual. Unless you have cut before and know what a proper cut is, it is hard to put into words. The type of sword the XV is, is thrust oriented but it still cuts well. Saying what you said, "a cut and thrust is 'very hard to cut with'?", is like saying "a XIII is a cut and thrust is very hard to thrust with?"
See what I mean? The Lucerne does cut well. It is a good representative of its type despite the bulky hilt. XVs were the first of the sword types to be designed specifically for plate armor. So swords of that type have narrow points to thrust between the gaps of plate. It still cuts well, you just have to put a tad more effort into your swing.
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Post by brotherbanzai on Jan 22, 2009 18:43:09 GMT
Because of the blade shape (wide at the hilt and tapering very sharply to the point), type XVa swords don't have a lot of blade presence. the weight is concentrated more toward the hilt. That means the sword will be quicker to recover and bring the point back on line but that it won't bite as deep when cutting. A type XIIIa on the other hand with a blade that is wide all the way to the point will cut very easily because it has more blade presence. It will also be slower to recover.
You can feel this as you swing either one. A type XVa can be moved around very fast since the weight is near your hand but doesn't cut as well because there isn't much weight behind the blade where the cut is happening. Type XIIIa is slower to move but has more weight behind the blade where it cuts and so cuts better.
Make sense?
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