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Post by kidcasanova on Jan 17, 2009 19:12:14 GMT
Being Chinese, I wouldn't trust the sword's temper. Combined with the shoddy hilt construction and the narrow tang, I would leave it on the wall as a just in case. There are other inexpensive swords out there that I would feel much safer cutting with.
Or like it was suggest, you could cut it down into a short sword or a few knives and peen the new tang.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2009 16:03:26 GMT
I wouldnt feel comfortable swinging that at hard targets
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2009 20:09:05 GMT
Hard targets? I doubt it'll hold it's own weight. Seeing that, i, personally, wouldn't take the chance and swing it around. It's very attractive, visually, so it'll be great as a wallhanger.
If it's sharp, don't take any chances.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2009 2:56:08 GMT
did you ever get rid of that sword i dont think you should ebay it dont pass on a headace keep it as a reminder of you first bad bad sword its a good wall hanger for a work shed
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2009 3:11:09 GMT
It's ended up a wallhanger, yes. Perhaps I'll make an arming sword of it later by cutting down the blade to a solid tang, making a new grip and peening it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2009 6:43:32 GMT
I get really frustrated about comments like this, just because its Chinese doesn't mean it is bad. The Chinese make great blades, I think we need to rethink our biases before we make comments that are almost racist in their nature. There are plenty of very good blades that are made in china and are cheap.
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Post by kidcasanova on Mar 25, 2009 6:54:53 GMT
I get really frustrated about comments like this, just because its Chinese doesn't mean it is bad. The Chinese make great blades, I think we need to rethink our biases before we make comments that are almost racist in their nature. There are plenty of very good blades that are made in china and are cheap. You're right, and I've owned some great ones. This is not one of them. Blood, lets take a look at some facts: It's a cheap wallhanger with a shoddy tang and shoddy hilt components. I mean, the pommel just pops right off and it's got a TINY little nut on there for petes sake. And of course the square shoulders at the blade junction. Why on earth would the HT/temper be any good on it? We don't even know what kind of steel the thing is. I stand by my statement, based on the product, and because of MANY of the wallhangers (read: nearly all of them) that come out of China. Had this been a functional blade, I'd have said nothing of the sort. If you look in other threads, I praise many of the quality pieces that come out of China. So please, stop sniffing for racism when none was implied. |
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Post by shadowhowler on Mar 25, 2009 6:55:19 GMT
I get really frustrated about comments like this, just because its Chinese doesn't mean it is bad. The Chinese make great blades, I think we need to rethink our biases before we make comments that are almost racist in their nature. There are plenty of very good blades that are made in china and are cheap. BW is VERY right on this... In fact, at LEAST half and likely more then that of the sub 300 swords that are reviewed here on this very site are forged in china. The fact of the matter is... much like many movies are filmed in Canada and other places outside of the US to save money, many swords are forged in china to do the same. Those same weapons, forged here in the states or many other places, would cost a LOT more then they do. A LOT of affordable, very nice weapons are forged in china. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2009 7:36:18 GMT
I get really frustrated about comments like this, just because its Chinese doesn't mean it is bad. The Chinese make great blades, I think we need to rethink our biases before we make comments that are almost racist in their nature. There are plenty of very good blades that are made in china and are cheap. You're right, and I've owned some great ones. This is not one of them. Blood, lets take a look at some facts: It's a cheap wallhanger with a shoddy tang and shoddy hilt components. I mean, the pommel just pops right off and it's got a TINY little nut on there for petes sake. And of course the square shoulders at the blade junction. Why on earth would the HT/temper be any good on it? We don't even know what kind of steel the thing is. I stand by my statement, based on the product, and because of MANY of the wallhangers (read: nearly all of them) that come out of China. Had this been a functional blade, I'd have said nothing of the sort. If you look in other threads, I praise many of the quality pieces that come out of China. So please, stop sniffing for racism when none was implied. Gotta correct you on some points there: The nut is larger than on most safe swords I've seen. The size of the sword is deceiving. The blade is hardened for use, obvious during sharpening, just like the rest of the swords I have from this seller. The two things that makes this unsafe for use is the blade/tang junction and the fact that the nut may loosen (but because of the construction, it won't fall off). The wood core of the hilt is solid and well built. The crossguard construction is also solid metal. So that leaves us with the tang construction as the only thing that banishes this sword to a wall placement. |
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Post by kidcasanova on Mar 25, 2009 7:45:47 GMT
I was looking at the comparison between your hand and the tang, and then the tang and the nut. Granted, you have personal experience with this sword and I do not, but I would not trust that nut to hold the sword together (even if it had a better tang). The sword being hard also does not mean it is tempered correctly, it could be very brittle. Again, you have the sword so you can perform a flex test, and I cannot. Here is a video of Paul talking about some wall-hangers with a very similar method of construction. The difference being that your tang is not welded. However, you'll note that it wasn't the tang that failed, but the nut. I will admit that it is hard to judge every aspect when all we have are pictures. I am only stating that it is not a piece I would trust my safety, or the safety of others with. Like I said before, it would make some pretty neat knives... Thanks for clearing some of the info up.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2009 8:06:59 GMT
No problem, KidCasanova, I definetly see your point, and that's why it's on the wall. I have actually placed the sword between two 2x4 wood planks and stepped on the middle with my 175 lbs. It only flexed. So it will make a good sword if the issues are fixed. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2009 19:27:23 GMT
You know, the ancients made some mistakes as well- that is, not every ancient blade was a 'good' one so it stands to reason there could've been some numpty-umpties that got left behind, someone saw them, called them ancient and now they're worth thousands upon thousands of dollars- not because it is a GOOD sword, but merely because it is deemed OLD.
Having said that, it is your sword and you will do as you wish with it; just be smart about it and go with your own feelings. If you feel it is safe to swing around, do so- I've swung wall hangers around with no damage to myself or them, but then, it is just dry handling and no contact. I've even used SLO's for 'sparring' but not for long and never to any real success.
The tang is troubling to me because I've seen (and owned) a number of rat tail tangs and given the stresses a sword can be placed under depending on what you're doing with it means that instead of the pressure being relayed over the whole sword, it concentrates at the weakest point and that's when bad things happen. Have a care, and have fun.
By the by, I agree with kid on the cheap wallhangers out of China stance- having bought more than a few and all of them being crap means I'm predisposed to thinking that WALLHANGERs from China are crappy- as I'm not alone in this I do think it is safe to say that it can happen and it need not be a racist thing.
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