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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2009 19:55:19 GMT
Before you ask, NO this sword is NOT mine! ...I wish it were........ ....... John sent me these pictures of a sword that he was working on the same time as my Stokes sword/Green Dragon/Baskethilt trio....... John is a big fan of the Conan novels and had a vision of how he saw the sword of Conan..... as you can see, its different than what the movie portrayed, but John always saw Conan's sword as less ornate and more about the strength of the STEEL! I think this protrays that thought very well..... this sword features THREE different patterns of Damascus and the etchings on the blade are nothing short of stellar....... typical of an Odinblade.
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Jan 11, 2009 20:07:07 GMT
Whoa...that's like...cool....
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Post by kidcasanova on Jan 11, 2009 20:16:47 GMT
John truly is an inspiring artist. What a masterpiece!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2009 21:03:38 GMT
This takes my breath away, makes my heart race. John you just keep out doing yourself. Beautiful!
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Post by enkidu on Jan 11, 2009 22:10:45 GMT
Interesting, I'm a big Conan novel fan also and he uses lots of different swords during the whole saga, so no interpretation can be wrong. But there's something about Jody's rendering that feel like an genuine atlantean blade as the novel may help picture it. Now... i think that John as generally a better aesthetic quality to his blades than Jody ever had IMO ( not that Mr Samson wasnt good, far from it, he was one of the best contemporary swordsmiths ) but for this one, i think that Jody's interpretation is more interesting, this one is a bit too much inspired of the viking's blades to earn the prestigious title of a ''real'' cimmerian, numedian, stygian, acheronian or atlantean blade even if Howard always has depicted the weapons used by protagonists and antagonists in any of his novels using historic exemples. Then again, as i stated Conan uses so many different type of blades during his adventures than no one can claim to have reproduce the one and only Conan's sword
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Post by johnlundemo1 on Jan 12, 2009 4:22:48 GMT
Interesting, I'm a big Conan novel fan also and he uses lots of different swords during the whole saga, so no interpretation can be wrong. But there's something about Jody's rendering that feel like an genuine atlantean blade as the novel may help picture it. Now... i think that John as generally a better aesthetic quality to his blades than Jody ever had IMO ( not that Mr Samson wasnt good, far from it, he was one of the best contemporary swordsmiths ) but for this one, i think that Jody's interpretation is more interesting, this one is a bit too much inspired of the viking's blades to earn the prestigious title of a ''real'' cimmerian, numedian, stygian, acheronian or atlantean blade even if Howard always has depicted the weapons used by protagonists and antagonists in any of his novels using historic exemples. Then again, as i stated Conan uses so many different type of blades during his adventures than no one can claim to have reproduce the one and only Conan's sword Well I named it Conan sword but you can call it whatever you want. I Have read all the novels and the Jordan story that the original Conan movie followed closely is my least favorite Conan novel. I was inspired by the Movie and of course the swords, though but that was way before I read all the novels. They were not designed by Jody Samson, he did actually make them from sword art designed by Ron Cobb. I agree the movie swords were more interesting and ornate, but that is not what Conan likes in a sword. There is no description in any book of him weilding anything but a good well balanced sturdy sword. Bronze, Numedian, Aquilonian, and even scimitars later. This is just what I think he would enjoy on the battle feild. I can tell you this here sword cuts like a lightning bolt. It is under 4 lbs and huge at over 44" of wide fully heat treated and tempered very sharp high layer damascus steel with turkish damascus pomel peened tang. This ain't no 10 lbs movie prop but a real sword made for a real martial artist.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2009 4:40:10 GMT
I have handled the "official" Albion Conan sword..... I will give them credit that they added distal taper and made it as light as possible, but even still..... that sword weighs a ton and is totally unrealistic as a "real" battlefield weapon....
I have no doubt you made this one to be the best it can be John...... no doubt at all! regardless of how the Movie sword LOOKS, it was JUST a movie sword and really unrealistic, weight wise
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Post by enkidu on Jan 12, 2009 5:34:41 GMT
John,
I must admit that you got a really good point ! I'm sure it handles way better than the movie sword and the ricasso and the damascus patterns are absolutly stunning. And no, Conan wouldnt probably choose a heavily decorated blade like the Atlantean over a well balanced and well made one, in that sense you are way more closer to the spirit of the Conan's universe. Even if the Atlantean has very good looks and IMO it feels like what would look an Atlantean blade, covered in cryptic runes, with demonic heads and everything, in that sense they did a really good job, and maybe i had too much of an Acheronian or Atlantean look in mind... explaining my initial reaction. But would that be representing what a weapon generaly look like in the world of Conan, no, you are quite right.
I didnt know about the Rob Cobb part, thanks for the info.
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Post by johnlundemo1 on Jan 13, 2009 0:18:42 GMT
John, I must admit that you got a really good point ! I'm sure it handles way better than the movie sword and the ricasso and the damascus patterns are absolutly stunning. And no, Conan wouldnt probably choose a heavily decorated blade like the Atlantean over a well balanced and well made one, in that sense you are way more closer to the spirit of the Conan's universe. Even if the Atlantean has very good looks and IMO it feels like what would look an Atlantean blade, covered in cryptic runes, with demonic heads and everything, in that sense they did a really good job, and maybe i had too much of an Acheronian or Atlantean look in mind... explaining my initial reaction. But would that be representing what a weapon generaly look like in the world of Conan, no, you are quite right. I didnt know about the Rob Cobb part, thanks for the info. Ron Cobb is a great designer and a true artist as we all know went far beyond the run of the mill sword designs with his Conan movie swords, as did Jody with his skill. They started this fantasy sword thing. But I don't believe he read alot of the original stories by Howard, or he might have come up with something a little more utilitarian.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2009 9:25:14 GMT
I'm no friend of all these "Conan swords". Being a Howard fan I prefer Conan to use whatever sword he can get. But, THIS sword really looks absolutely great and wonderful. It seems to have that special Hyborian soul. This one might be a sword lying hidden in a magician's tower, or on top of a mountain, guarded by a demon...or whatever. I love it. Very inspiring sword!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2009 14:18:12 GMT
Don't know anything about conan, but I really like the look of that sword.
Does it come with a scabbard by any chance? I'm guessing it doesn't since it wasn't shown, but I figured I'd ask about it nevertheless.
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Post by johnlundemo1 on Jan 17, 2009 16:14:21 GMT
Don't know anything about conan, but I really like the look of that sword. Does it come with a scabbard by any chance? I'm guessing it doesn't since it wasn't shown, but I figured I'd ask about it nevertheless. It comes with a katanakake stand or I can make a scabbard for it at no extra cost thanks for asking.
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Post by shadowhowler on Jan 17, 2009 17:10:56 GMT
So very, VERY beautiful...
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Jan 17, 2009 19:16:21 GMT
oh, man...If i were a millionaire...I'd be 3800 dollars poorer by tonight! lol ;D
Great sword, John. +1
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Post by musicalpoo on Jan 28, 2009 16:31:50 GMT
hmmmm, it looks like a "Steve" in my opinion, name wise that is I really like the pommel and wrap on the handle, fancy indeed
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2009 23:41:28 GMT
I think that the movie sword was intentionally made with coarser features, sot that they would not be missed on-screen. John's design may be too subtle to be picked uip by a movie camera. That doesn't mean it shouldn't be in a movie though, it just means that it's made to be appreciated up-close. I don't even know if these pictures do it justice.
This sword also has a feeling of continuity to modern history. Remember, the Hyborian Age preceeded ours by a few thousand years. It would make sense for some similarity to historical blades, in the same way that Hyborian names resemble some of our historical names.
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Post by johnlundemo1 on Feb 7, 2009 2:14:52 GMT
I think that the movie sword was intentionally made with coarser features, sot that they would not be missed on-screen. John's design may be too subtle to be picked uip by a movie camera. That doesn't mean it shouldn't be in a movie though, it just means that it's made to be appreciated up-close. I don't even know if these pictures do it justice. This sword also has a feeling of continuity to modern history. Remember, the Hyborian Age preceeded ours by a few thousand years. It would make sense for some similarity to historical blades, in the same way that Hyborian names resemble some of our historical names. Personally I don't think there is anything about the sword on the whole that looks modern, what with the brazil nut pommel and plain viking style guard. The riccasso does not look historical though which is why it is a semi fantasy sword. As far as not being gaudy enough for a film that is just taste. The books portray Conan as liking plain swords, so that's why I didn't do alot of carvings and stuff, though most of the covers show guady fantasy swords. I think all that is needed would be a few close ups. You would have to watch the movie several times to see the damascus patterns, hahah. I understand the hyperborian age was a few thousand years ago, yet most of the stories Conan is using steel swords, even scimitars in Howard stories also big wooden sailing ships etc. So, really there is no human history in any of the stories. In one story he fights with broadsword against rapier, that one was not Howard if I recall. Anyway to me it is anyones guess what swords in his age would look like, especially it being a totally fantasy world. Besides, it is not the sword but the man!
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Post by shadowhowler on Feb 7, 2009 7:51:23 GMT
Besides, it is not the sword but the man! And Conan is *THE* man... ;D However, *I* would feel a lot more like THE MAN if I had that sword of yours John... it's just amazing.
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