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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2009 4:41:28 GMT
I have an Albion Duke, Crecy and Knightly. I like the balance of the knightly it truely is a magnificent sword, I am however partial to hand and a halfs The Crecy is very stiff but feels like the poorest balance of the three. The Duke (love this sword ) while the largest feels better balanced then the Crecy probably due to the larger pommel and longer handle, however to keep the weight down the blade is thin and not stiff at all. I think my ideal sword would be something like the Duke with a stiffer blade even if it meant a slight sacrifice in balance, or to even it out even go to a two hander. Any XIIIa's out there perhaps slightly stiffer?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2009 4:54:23 GMT
Man your the opposite of me. Give me a hilt heavy sword any day of the week over a tip heavy one . Anyways, you can give the Albion steward a try. Or the del tin 2142...although that isn't a very stiff blade I suppose. Or an Atrim XIIa or XIII(a). I think the atrim XIIa might be what your looking actually...and the flared shoulder one is just damn sexy to boot .
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2009 12:31:08 GMT
Man your the opposite of me. Give me a hilt heavy sword any day of the week over a tip heavy one . Anyways, you can give the Albion steward a try. Or the del tin 2142...although that isn't a very stiff blade I suppose. Or an Atrim XIIa or XIII(a). I think the atrim XIIa might be what your looking actually...and the flared shoulder one is just damn sexy to boot . I don't know about Duke, but DT2142 is stiffer then most Windlass longswords I handled. But it is not XIIIa, more like XIIa...
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Post by ShooterMike on Jan 8, 2009 15:42:03 GMT
OC, you and I must have opposite tastes. I also have a Crecy and a sword very similar to a Duke. I like the handling of the Crecy. It just seems "right" to me from a performance standpoint. And I like the Duke, but mostly for its thin cutting blade, which leads to the flexibility you don't like.
I also have an Albion Baron. It is just a bout exactly what you described. I would say it is a stiffer, slightly heavier version of the Duke with a slightly longer grip. I have never been a big fan of the Baron. Maybe we should trade Baron for Duke?
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Jan 8, 2009 18:40:42 GMT
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Post by ShooterMike on Jan 8, 2009 20:37:43 GMT
Sorry SoD, but I said I have "a sword very similar to a Duke", not an Albion Duke. It's actually an ATrim Maker's Mark Flared Shoulders Type XIII. And it's not going anywhere unless you have LOTS of money to send me.
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Jan 8, 2009 21:14:23 GMT
You didn't ACTUALLY think I was asking you for it, right? BTW, I heard of an SBG Special AT 1315, and I was wondering what the differance is between the SBG Special and the standard AT 1315. Thanks Shootermike. P.S. The 'cutting from the scabbard with medieval swords' video is AWESOME! I wouldn't want to meet you in a dark alley if I was a bad guy, lol. ;D Thanks, Slayer
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2009 2:32:12 GMT
I also have an Albion Baron. It is just a bout exactly what you described. I would say it is a stiffer, slightly heavier version of the Duke with a slightly longer grip. I have never been a big fan of the Baron. Maybe we should trade Baron for Duke? I don't think I'll ever get rid of the Duke, I love the way it feels I just wish it was slightly stiffer. I had my Crecys handle dyed blue to match it. I took it to work today to show every one (all my swords have been to work at lest once) and at least two people said "I thought you had that one all ready" I guess they all look alike to non sword people ;D
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Post by kidcasanova on Jan 9, 2009 3:24:03 GMT
You didn't ACTUALLY think I was asking you for it, right? BTW, I heard of an SBG Special AT 1315, and I was wondering what the differance is between the SBG Special and the standard AT 1315. Thanks Shootermike. P.S. The 'cutting from the scabbard with medieval swords' video is AWESOME! I wouldn't want to meet you in a dark alley if I was a bad guy, lol. ;D Thanks, Slayer Gus offered a small number of AT1315's to members of SBG for 300 dollars. I really like Rick's 1315+ (as he calls it).
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Post by ShooterMike on Jan 9, 2009 3:43:17 GMT
OC, you might take a look at the Maker's Mark line. There's a type XIIIa there that is very promising. It's described as a "thumper" but I have a feeling it just might be a lot like the Duke only a bit stiffer. It wouldn't hurt to call Christian and see what he thinks, if you're really serious?
SoD, the "SBG Specials" were standard AT1315s in every way. And will never happen again, I have been assured. At least not for $300. However, they are so well liked that Gus is planning on adding them to his legacy line. At least two are in production now.
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Post by kidcasanova on Jan 9, 2009 4:10:26 GMT
I do hope he keeps the 1315 around, so I have time to purchase one once I've found employment.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2009 15:44:02 GMT
Mike are you talking about the quad fuller? The regular one seems almost identical in stats same weight, just 2 inches shorter. The quad 3 oz heavier but only 1 inch shorter. I'm guessing the saved weight with the multiple fuller + the extra 3 oz means more a stiffer blade toward the tip end? Then again the COG is almost 2 inches closer to the hilt. Also since you have several Albions have you ever had trouble with the dye coming off the grip? Used my Crecy for the first time today and both my hands are blue............ The grip still looks perfect but with the amount of blue on my right middle finger you would have sworn there wouldn't be any left on the grip. (For the record I am not looking to buy another sword right now, but I at least need an idea of what to try to budget for, the great thing about Albion is that I have been able to buy every sword and make payments over the wait time not many other places let you do that)
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Post by ShooterMike on Jan 9, 2009 19:45:48 GMT
I was referring to the single fuller one, but the quad fuller is another good option. I've never had, or even heard of, the dye come off an Albion grip. It sounds like they forgot to put the sealer on after the dye job. Was this the original color? Or was it dyed over another color? If the later, it could be that the original sealer wasn't removed, allowing the dye to "slough off" as it wouldn't penetrate the leather properly. At least that's my guess...
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Post by septofclansinclair on Jan 9, 2009 19:58:26 GMT
I seem to recall their Steward Medieval War Sword being labeled a XIIIa. In any case, it's one of 3 Albions that I have my eye on for if I suddenly win the lottery...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2009 21:09:18 GMT
Dyed by Albion. I sent them an email about the color bleed. Its not that bad dry handling. I did get a tiny bit on my hand when I first unboxed it. I just figured it was a little excess dye. When I use it today a got a little water on my hand and it was pretty bad but washed off. That pic is after I rubbed a little bit of water on my hand and rubbed the handle. Probably about the same as if I had sweaty hands in the summer time.
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Post by ShooterMike on Jan 9, 2009 21:56:50 GMT
Oh man! That's BAD! I would bet whoever did the dye job forgot to add the Leather Sheen or whatever type of final sealing treatment they use. That looks to me like a very obviously a case of exposed raw dye.
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Post by Dave(utilityslave) on Jan 9, 2009 22:15:32 GMT
I also have an Albion Baron. It is just a bout exactly what you described. I would say it is a stiffer, slightly heavier version of the Duke with a slightly longer grip. I have never been a big fan of the Baron. Maybe we should trade Baron for Duke? I don't think I'll ever get rid of the Duke, I love the way it feels I just wish it was slightly stiffer. I had my Crecys handle dyed blue to match it. I took it to work today to show every one (all my swords have been to work at lest once) and at least two people said "I thought you had that one all ready" I guess they all look alike to non sword people ;D So who dyed the other sword grip blue for you? Apparently it is color fast?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2009 22:23:01 GMT
Both where done by albion. I saw a Duke with what appeared to be a blue grip on the page with the gun cases they sell and absolutly loved it. Got the Duke in Blue, got a Crecy in blue and someday when I can afford it I want a Knight in blue. If I get the nerve I may try to rewrap my knightly in blue (Albion doesn't offer blue on the squire line) The Duke I think I have had over a year maybe close to two and never saw any blue come off on my hand.
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Post by Dave(utilityslave) on Jan 9, 2009 22:30:36 GMT
So, two grips dyed blue from the same source but only one is bleeding......yep,sounds like they missed something.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2009 3:15:16 GMT
Just for the record I took down the pic of the blue coming off on my hand because I know how viscous some people can be on sword forums an Albion is probably one of the best businesses I have dealt with. I just wanted an opinion to make sure it was indeed out of the norm. I am sure I'll get a reply Monday on how to fix this. It's probably something easy I can pick up at a craft store or the like but I don't want to risk getting something incompatible with the dye/leather without hearing what's safe from them. And as far as my initial feeling that it felt a little heavy and awkward for me, well its starting to grow on me
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