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Post by genocideseth on Jan 24, 2009 18:59:33 GMT
I wasn't any different as well... Except fr one thing. Like Cold Napalm I was introduced to knives and guns at a young age. My first blade other than pocket knives was a tanto at age 13. Carbon steel as well, but it suffered from a bad heat treatment and was made very non traditionally. It didn't stop me from abusing it, but I was well aware of how dangerous a blade could be (I watched my did skin moose a lot, yea my dad was a hunter), so I did it when no one was around and in such a way if it broke, it would helicopter into the woods. I can understand it from Musicalpoo's point of view, but I think he should be properly educated with such things before doing a destruction test. And an Albion PWNS (I am such a nerd) darksword, it is just that darksword is much cheaper which would make it my first choice. In a battle, efficiency is everything, so a lighter sword is a must.
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Post by musicalpoo on Jan 25, 2009 7:33:48 GMT
I would choose DSA over an albion. I have experience with Darksword (I own the two-handed gothic), and It's certainly the king of beaters. Plus it's shiny Since I'm 13, and my dad isn't a huge fan of my sword obsession, I got my sword dull, and yet, I can use it to split wood for fires, break down non-functional chairs to fit in garbage cans (that is ludicrously fun), and use it as a solid lever to open large crates that have been screwed on with stripped screws! Anyways, I would definitely recommend DSA, but wait a while before you purchase, I hear they're coming out with a Witch King sword in March Why in god's name are you using a sword for that?!? Not only WILL you damage the blade...even a DSA blade, but it is bloody dangerous. If you do not wish to use a deadly weapon safely, please do the community a favor and just hang it up on the wall and leave it there. This is so irresponsible...so bloody moronic...geh...and if I could get to you, I would smack you in the back of the head until you came to your senses. As for being tough...albions will run circles around a DSA even on that grounds. While DSA may have the extra metal, I promise you that an albion has the MUCH better heat treatment. Even the squireline will surpass DSA by miles...and for what the cost...it should. Hey, This sword is an awesome tool! Plus, it's much better that I break things that need breaking instead of trying to swing it around in my room. I haven't used it for firewood yet, but perhaps I shouldn't However, I think you are taking this much to seriously, there was a crate that needed opening, I opened it! a chair needed to be broken down, so I broke it, but in a reasonable way. Mainly I used the Pommel, since the pommel is so epic on this sword. I do love my sword, and take good care of it, and I am NOT going to leave it on the wall, if that were my intent I would buy a 50 dollar sword instead of a 275 dollar sword. And perhaps you should be a bit more kind on the Internets, especially to a fellow sword enthusiast. As for Albion, I do like their scabbards, and the swords, but what I was thinking was price wise. Seeing as it takes me 6 MONTHS to save for a sword, I would definitely take a DSA over an albion, in other words, the quality for the price is better in DSA. The crate and chair thing were supervised by a parental unit Friends?
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Post by genocideseth on Jan 25, 2009 8:46:48 GMT
Well, the quality for price thing I would have to disagree with, but I would definitely attempt to purchase a Darksword as it may be more kind to my budget... But if i had the money, I would take the Albion without a moments hesitation. Why? no wait, awesome sword and did I mention awesome sword? I have never handled one myself (Along with darksword) But from what I hear, the balance is awesome and it handles lie a dream. The plain-ness is not a problem with me at all, as it gives me reason to customize it to whatever I prefer. I love fancy scabbards and such, but they leave no room for customization.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2009 12:54:10 GMT
Hey, This sword is an awesome tool! Plus, it's much better that I break things that need breaking instead of trying to swing it around in my room. I haven't used it for firewood yet, but perhaps I shouldn't However, I think you are taking this much to seriously, there was a crate that needed opening, I opened it! a chair needed to be broken down, so I broke it, but in a reasonable way. Mainly I used the Pommel, since the pommel is so epic on this sword. I do love my sword, and take good care of it, and I am NOT going to leave it on the wall, if that were my intent I would buy a 50 dollar sword instead of a 275 dollar sword. And perhaps you should be a bit more kind on the Internets, especially to a fellow sword enthusiast. As for Albion, I do like their scabbards, and the swords, but what I was thinking was price wise. Seeing as it takes me 6 MONTHS to save for a sword, I would definitely take a DSA over an albion, in other words, the quality for the price is better in DSA. The crate and chair thing were supervised by a parental unit Friends? TOOL?!? See that is the problem right there. A sword is NOT a tool. You want a tool? Get a crowbar. It'll open crates and bash chairs MUCH better for only 10 bucks. A parent that allows you to use a sword in said manner is one that does not know what a sword can do and is being irresponsible. And why am I being so serious? Because we don't want you to kill somebody...like say your parents as they watch you hack something. Because comments that you made make the sword collecting community look irresponsible. As for the price...umm dude, your a 13 year old that can collect 300 bucks in 6 months?!? That means you can get an atrim in a year and and albion in a year and a half...there are a ton of adults that would be so jealous of that it isn't even funny. Hell in fact, that's about on par with what I can save up for a sword if I used cash instead of credit . As for friends...if we didn't care, we wouldn't scold you...yeah I know, sound like a parent don't I hehe.
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Jan 25, 2009 16:55:26 GMT
Hey, um, Musical? I know Cold Napalm can get a bit harsh at times ( ), but his points are almost ALWAYS valid. He's a smart guy, and apart from his blatant hate for DSA ( ;D), I think that you should listen to what he has to say. Heck, I should listen to what he has to say, and, correct me if I'm wrong, but I beleive that I'm a bit more experienced with swords than you are, mate. Believe me, Napalm wouldn't be so serious if he didn't have a reason to be. I'm not trying to insult you AT ALL, in fact, I'd like it if we could be friends, but even a DSA is NOT meant for that kind of abuse. It's just irresponsible. Now, that aside, enjoy your Gothic, I'm saving up for one of those beasts right after I get my next blade; a DSA 100-Year War Sword! -Slayer
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Post by shadowhowler on Jan 25, 2009 21:13:22 GMT
[ As for the price...umm dude, your a 13 year old that can collect 300 bucks in 6 months?!? That means you can get an atrim in a year and and albion in a year and a half...there are a ton of adults that would be so jealous of that it isn't even funny. Hell in fact, that's about on par with what I can save up for a sword if I used cash instead of credit . So true... Sadly we are not all ShooterMike, RicWilly or Serge... we all love swords, but some of us older folk still have trouble coming up with the spare cash to buy a couple swords a year. Slayer: I thought you were saving up for a Fable blade... but now your going for a couple DSA blades first? Or do you yet know what you want...? Better nail it down my young friend. ;D
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Post by kidcasanova on Jan 25, 2009 21:20:23 GMT
Hey, um, Musical? I know Cold Napalm can get a bit harsh at times ( ), but his points are almost ALWAYS valid. He's a smart guy, and apart from his blatant hate for DSA ( ;D), I think that you should listen to what he has to say. Heck, I should listen to what he has to say, and I'm quite a bit further along the sword-lover's path than you are, mate. Believe me, he wouldn't be so serious if he didn't have a reason to be. I'm not trying to insult you AT ALL, in fact, I'd like it if we could be friends, but even a DSA is NOT meant for that kind of abuse. It's just irresponsible. Now, that aside, enjoy your Gothic, I'm saving up for one of those beasts right after I get my next blade; a DSA 100-Year War Sword! -Slayer Further along the sword-lover's path? And you say MusicalPoo is the over-zealous one? Don't look now, but you aren't exactly being taken seriously. Sigh. I still sort of miss that smite button sometimes.
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Jan 25, 2009 21:50:22 GMT
[ As for the price...umm dude, your a 13 year old that can collect 300 bucks in 6 months?!? That means you can get an atrim in a year and and albion in a year and a half...there are a ton of adults that would be so jealous of that it isn't even funny. Hell in fact, that's about on par with what I can save up for a sword if I used cash instead of credit . So true... Sadly we are not all ShooterMike, RicWilly or Serge... we all love swords, but some of us older folk still have trouble coming up with the spare cash to buy a couple swords a year. Slayer: I thought you were saving up for a Fable blade... but now your going for a couple DSA blades first? Or do you yet know what you want...? Better nail it down my young friend. ;D Trust me, it's a long story, lol ;D! But the Fableblade IS high up on the list... Hey, I can totally understand where you are coming from saying that, but it wasn't neccesary. I was using a bit of 'flowery language', I admit, but I wasn't saying that I know everything! I was simply saying that I apparantly have a bit more experience with swords, and that he shouldn't just brush off Napalm's (incredibly TRUE!) comments lightly. Maybe I phrased something a bit differently than I intended, but there was no call for your post. I'm not an easy guy to offend, but I kind of feel like you're the only one just being critical at every chance. So, that being said, I beleive from your actions in response to the 'cutting with a shirasaya' thread, that you would agree with Cold Napalm and I in this particular subject, correct?
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Post by kidcasanova on Jan 25, 2009 22:31:41 GMT
Hey, I can totally understand where you are coming from saying that, but it wasn't neccesary. I was using a bit of 'flowery language', I admit, but I wasn't saying that I know everything! I was simply saying that I apparantly have a bit more experience with swords, and that he shouldn't just brush off Napalm's (incredibly TRUE!) comments lightly. Maybe I phrased something a bit differently than I intended, but there was no call for your post. I'm not an easy guy to offend, but I kind of feel like you're the only one just being critical at every chance. So, that being said, I beleive from your actions in response to the 'cutting with a shirasaya' thread, that you would agree with Cold Napalm and I in this particular subject, correct? I'm not sure which post you're talking about, but yes, I do agree with Cold. I also, however, disagree with how you conduct yourself on the forum. You seem like a nice kid, really, you're quite friendly. But if I disagree with something posted (by anyone, really) I'm going to say so. I just disagree with you more often. As for the rest of your post, I'm writing a PM now. And as for the topic, I've heard too many horror stories about Cold Steel's European line. Even though DSA has some fit/finish and weight issues, I would trust their structural integrity and customer service at the drop of a hat over CS.
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Post by musicalpoo on Jan 26, 2009 6:52:52 GMT
I've been in contact with him, and he's just determined to win. I don't actually cut fire wood with my sword, but I was planning on "trying". I would never do anything to my sword that I didn't think it could handle. Seeing as I payed for my sword with babysitting and raking money, I definitely wouldn't want it to break or deform in any way. I'm sure Napalm is a nice dude, but I've tried to make peace, and he...declined. The chair was a simple thing, my dad thinks that the sword is less sturdy than it is, and he thought it might be OK if I broke it down a bit, and honestly what I did, was hit the wooden slats in the seat with the pommel, no harm done to the sword, after that I unscrewed the chair legs, and put it in the trash. My usual target is a cardboard box. As for the crate, it was a small wooden slatted box that dad was having trouble opening, so i stuck the blade into the box's opening, and twisted the blade, and the wood around the screws broke, again, no harm done. I'm not one to hold a grudge, especially to one who hasn't done anything to upset me, so I'd be glad to be friends With you, and napalm, but he's resisting, unfortunately.
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Post by musicalpoo on Jan 26, 2009 6:55:13 GMT
I just want to be friends, so will everyone stop insulting me!
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Post by genocideseth on Jan 26, 2009 7:12:13 GMT
I would love to be friends, but what they are stating is just for your own safety and for your swords well being. They used to be harsh to me as well for my choices, but in the end it made me a lot more knowledgeable of a person. Don't take their comments to hard on yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2009 7:20:58 GMT
I did warn you about the acceptence of the community to things we consider dangerous didn't I? We are friendly, but we do not accept behaviors that is considered dangerous to one self or others...directly or if emulated. This is why we don't accept movies of cutting shirasayas in the movie forum...or at least we aren't suppose to. We don't want anyone doing what they see and getting hurt. Somebody doing what you said may get hurt even if you don't. This is also why kid and slayer are having their little side argument as well. And I must say, slayer has come a long way since then...but he can get a bit overzealous still.
As for torqueing the blade...oh bloody hell. That is a GREAT way to damage a blade. Most sets that happen in swords is from rotational torque in the middle of badly flubbed cut and you putting that stress on a sword on purpose?!? Not only that but the tip on most sword design that aren't re-enforced tips like the new Atrim XVIa are the weak points. This is a great way to break the tip and have it go fling off in a random direction because swords flex and that will cause odd trajectories.
And nothing bad happened THIS time...but what about the next? And the next? And all the other kids who read your message and go oh that's cool and they all try it too? It is a dangerous use of your sword. The cardboard boxes are fine. Feel free to do that all you want...just no bashing chairs and opening crates please.
And yes we are your friends...that is why we are warning you should not do this. Like how we would take the keys of our friends if they are drunk. We aren't doing this just to be a buzz kill to you. We aren't doing this to insult you. I am not trying to "win". This is for YOUR benefit....
Course at the end of the day, we aren't there. We aren't you. We aren't your parents and you can do whatever you want...but we as your peers don't have to accept and congradulate you for what we consider irresponsible behavior.
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Post by genocideseth on Jan 26, 2009 9:36:17 GMT
Well said Cold Napalm. Karma for you. That is the best put I have ever heard it.
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Jan 26, 2009 16:43:25 GMT
Same from me. I'll be quoting THAT one sometime in the future, lol! Oh, and thanks for saying I've come a long way ;D. I WAS a bit of a mess when I met you guys! Like you said, though, I still have my moments... and I'm afraid this thread was one of 'em... Congratulation, Napalm, for not only being the only one of us who could so elequently say what you've just said, but for also being my favorite weapons mod on video games! (get it, a Napalm mod? Ok, lame, but I had to try! ) -Slayer
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Post by enkidu on Jan 26, 2009 18:53:55 GMT
Well said, I totally agree Napalm.
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