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Post by genocideseth on Dec 15, 2008 17:06:43 GMT
Ignoring price and stuff, which one do you guys think would hold up better in a duel?
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Post by genocideseth on Dec 15, 2008 17:07:12 GMT
Ignoring price and stuff, which one do you guys think would hold up better in a duel? And I mean their hand and a half.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2008 19:42:12 GMT
I think they would be equal. Mind you the Cold Steel would come lethally sharpened. The DSA usually does not. Although they might have their sharpening service up and running now. If you can get the DSA sharpened properly I would think they would be equal.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2008 21:59:43 GMT
DSA's hilts are made more safe and durable.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2008 6:49:37 GMT
Darksword probably, they do kinda break even .... huh ......
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Dec 17, 2008 21:35:11 GMT
Darksword's has better handling though, right?
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Post by genocideseth on Dec 17, 2008 23:09:32 GMT
Hmmm, I think I would agree they would be equal in terms of blade strength, but hardware and geometry would be another story. If I had the money I would conduct some tests. But with my limited experience it probably wouldn't be very accurate.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2008 1:06:26 GMT
Darksword's has better handling though, right? I don't think either brand is known for being very agile...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2008 12:20:19 GMT
CS hand and a half is a fast sword and I like it and would probably buy it if I trusted their hilt construction.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2008 23:10:06 GMT
Well lets see, CS forged in India, Darksword forged In Canada, The DSA has the better hilt design, I would go with them.....SanMarc.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2008 23:43:32 GMT
Well lets see, CS forged in India, Darksword forged In Canada, This makes no difference. The windlass type XIV sword is made in india and it's by all accounts a very good sword. Even people who regularly collect albions pretty much like this sword. Now that is a good reason to pick DSA over coldsteel.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2008 0:50:48 GMT
The summery of my functional cutting collection consists of 1 x Cold Steel Cutlass 1 x Cold Steel Light Cav Sabre 1 x Cold Steel Napoleon Sabre 1 x Cold Steel LAREDO BOWIE KNIFE (Ironically my best cutter, CS does anything under 15 inches well) 1 x Darksword Armoury 2 Handed Gothic Sword .........
While the Cold Steel blades are a tad heavy to be weilded in the sabre configuration I prefer (light handshake to pistol grip) the DSA Gothic is light in the grip compared to other double handed blades and seems to handle well ........
But I have more soul and feeling for the DSA Gothic, I dont know I kinda agree with Sanmarc, it was made by a small group of dedicated blokes in Canada rather then a ram n hurried line of low pay workers in India ........ I feel more spirit in holding and using my Gothic and I'm not a two handed sword favourer (I light single handed more agile, free hand use) ...........
Cold Steel make BRILLIANT knives, great tomahawks, spears .......... all their odds and bods, everything they make is gold BUT their swords ............. their ..... ooookay ........ hey just my opinion, I love my sabres, but just as fun cutters wouldnt put my life in their hands ..........
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2008 5:18:28 GMT
But I have more soul and feeling for the DSA Gothic, I dont know I kinda agree with Sanmarc, it was made by a small group of dedicated blokes in Canada rather then a ram n hurried line of low pay workers in India ........ I feel more spirit in holding and using my Gothic and I'm not a two handed sword favourer (I light single handed more agile, free hand use) ........... Once again, this does not make a better sword. A sword has no soul. That feeling you have is all in your head and is of no use in actual combat (remember this is for a duel after all). You can like it better just fine...but it does not make a better sword. DSA having a better hilt assmebly then the CS does make it a better sword. The fact that the CS swords handle like a lead pipe compared to the DSA makes the DSA better swords (And I consider DSA to be too heavy and poorly balanced). Come on here people, the "soul" of a blade or the spirit you feel won't save you from a sword blow to the head.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2008 23:26:51 GMT
Once again, this does not make a better sword. A sword has no soul. That feeling you have is all in your head and is of no use in actual combat (remember this is for a duel after all). You can like it better just fine...but it does not make a better sword. DSA having a better hilt assmebly then the CS does make it a better sword. The fact that the CS swords handle like a lead pipe compared to the DSA makes the DSA better swords (And I consider DSA to be too heavy and poorly balanced). Come on here people, the "soul" of a blade or the spirit you feel won't save you from a sword blow to the head.[/quote] Yes this is true, but it might make you feel "just a little bit better" Maybe...... SanMarc.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2008 0:05:39 GMT
I've owned both. Darksword is built more solidly and tempered to a harder edge.
I'd pick a DSA any day.
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Post by ShooterMike on Dec 21, 2008 0:34:37 GMT
I have the remains of a Cold Steel Hand-&-a-half sword. It had a very hard, well heat treated blade that was extremely sharp and was one of the best handling, best cutting bastard swords I have owned. Unfortunately, the hilt was held together by a soft piece of threaded rod that was poorly welded to the tang, obviously after the heat treat was done. It broke in short order and the sword literally fell apart in my hand. Luckily, I was finished cutting with it and was carrying it away from the cutting area when it disassembled itself. I cut down the blade to shift the whole hilt 1.5 inches forward, then filed it down and re-threaded the tang. It broke on the first few cuts. On examination, the way the heavy pommel screws onto the tang provides way too much leverage against the thin, fragile part that's threaded, making it very easy to break with two hands. IMO it's a very flawed design, and is prone to breakage under normal two-hand usage. If challenged to a duel and offered a Cold Steel hand-&-a-half as my only sword choice... I would try to find a good sturdy piece of pipe instead.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2008 0:37:18 GMT
Sage words of wisdom Mike, and have a happy Xmas as well!
........SanMarc.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2008 1:06:13 GMT
But I have more soul and feeling for the DSA Gothic, I dont know I kinda agree with Sanmarc, it was made by a small group of dedicated blokes in Canada rather then a ram n hurried line of low pay workers in India ........ I feel more spirit in holding and using my Gothic and I'm not a two handed sword favourer (I light single handed more agile, free hand use) ........... Once again, this does not make a better sword. A sword has no soul. That feeling you have is all in your head and is of no use in actual combat (remember this is for a duel after all). You can like it better just fine...but it does not make a better sword. DSA having a better hilt assmebly then the CS does make it a better sword. The fact that the CS swords handle like a lead pipe compared to the DSA makes the DSA better swords (And I consider DSA to be too heavy and poorly balanced). Come on here people, the "soul" of a blade or the spirit you feel won't save you from a sword blow to the head. I was just expressing that to myself the fact that a particular blade to me "has got a feeling" like it was made more by a "smith" then a worker gives me more confidence in the fact that its probably made with more care, attention, quality. And when I'm wielding it, and if its a dual when your fight or flight is racing I want every drop of confidence in a blade that it can generate NAY inspire in me.... where that confidence comes from I feel often goes beyond its HRC, CARBON, stats ...... call it romanticism, consumer confidence, whatever ....... Then again maybe more people got disposable incomes then I do ........ Oh and Mikes bad threaded tang business, well Eyal's peening all his blades now now so +1 for DSA on that front I suppose
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2008 1:41:58 GMT
I was just expressing that to myself the fact that a particular blade to me "has got a feeling" like it was made more by a "smith" then a worker gives me more confidence in the fact that its probably made with more care, attention, quality. And when I'm wielding it, and if its a dual when your fight or flight is racing I want every drop of confidence in a blade that it can generate NAY inspire in me.... where that confidence comes from I feel often goes beyond its HRC, CARBON, stats ...... call it romanticism, consumer confidence, whatever ....... Then again maybe more people got disposable incomes then I do ........ Oh and Mikes bad threaded tang business, well Eyal's peening all his blades now now so +1 for DSA on that front I suppose Once again, you can be as confidant as you want in a sword, but if it's made badly, it will fail no matter what you believe. And then you die. Now remember that I too agree that the DSA is a better option then CS...but this kind of thinking as far as comparison of the quality of a sword is flawed. Either the sword is good or it isn't. The HRC, carbon and stats IS all that matters in this arena. What's better, going I believe that this forged DSA is the better sword because it was made in a small shop and hand forged? Or I KNOW the DSA is the better sword because the stats says it is so? For a duel, I'll take the latter please.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2008 8:44:09 GMT
I was just expressing that to myself the fact that a particular blade to me "has got a feeling" like it was made more by a "smith" then a worker gives me more confidence in the fact that its probably made with more care, attention, quality. And when I'm wielding it, and if its a dual when your fight or flight is racing I want every drop of confidence in a blade that it can generate NAY inspire in me.... where that confidence comes from I feel often goes beyond its HRC, CARBON, stats ...... call it romanticism, consumer confidence, whatever ....... Then again maybe more people got disposable incomes then I do ........ Oh and Mikes bad threaded tang business, well Eyal's peening all his blades now now so +1 for DSA on that front I suppose Once again, you can be as confidant as you want in a sword, but if it's made badly, it will fail no matter what you believe. And then you die. Now remember that I too agree that the DSA is a better option then CS...but this kind of thinking as far as comparison of the quality of a sword is flawed. Either the sword is good or it isn't. The HRC, carbon and stats IS all that matters in this arena. What's better, going I believe that this forged DSA is the better sword because it was made in a small shop and hand forged? Or I KNOW the DSA is the better sword because the stats says it is so? For a duel, I'll take the latter please. True true, I suppose in terms of the tool of combat it comes down to the attributes, and a doomed blade is doomed from the moment it left the building, I suppose the rest of the mindset comes into the relationship between the duelists. He he I yield Napalm But like they say the mind is a powerfull thing, dont wanna get to Matrix and Spoons on everyone though. I suppose the interesting thing is take this debate to a Japanese post .......... katana's with souls hhhhhhhmmmmmm .......... They know the waaayyy of the SAMURAI!!!!
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