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Post by sniperdiplomat on May 9, 2024 14:17:52 GMT
Hello all, I am new here and have an opportunity to get a blade that has heavy folded pattern, with a straight hamon. My question is to know if this is a quality blade, given it has a heavy folded pattern? Most blades that are folded, don't have such distinct lines. Thoughts?
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on May 9, 2024 14:24:11 GMT
Pictures would help us to help you.
"Heavy folded pattern" doesn't sound well.
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Post by sniperdiplomat on May 9, 2024 14:33:26 GMT
Here is a photo Attachments:
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Post by L Driggers (fallen) on May 9, 2024 14:43:14 GMT
That's not that heavy folded, if it was the pattern wouldn't show up as weel as it does. |
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Post by sniperdiplomat on May 9, 2024 14:45:31 GMT
Hmm I guess my next question is, what is the potential for this to be a quality blade?
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Post by mrstabby on May 9, 2024 17:05:23 GMT
Hmm I guess my next question is, what is the potential for this to be a quality blade? That's more a question of the whole sword, where it came from and who made it than the look of the steel. Probably needed: Pic of whole sword, close-up of grip and tuba, pic of tang and saya.
The chinese have become pretty good at producing masses of such steel. Also what do you mean by quality? Will the steel fail when you use it? If everything else is in order and the tempering was done correctly, No. Is it worth much? That depends on the things mentioned above.
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Post by sniperdiplomat on May 10, 2024 2:27:58 GMT
Sadly I don't have more pics at the moment but I can say that the Saya has a Saya hook and it has what looks like Buffalo horn at the opening.
Ray skin has lots of larger nodes and about 3 right in the middle of 3 of the diamonds.
The fittings look exactly like some from Tozando or Yamato websites.
That's about all the info I have atm.
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Post by larason2 on May 10, 2024 2:28:50 GMT
It looks like it is what the chinese call "damascus," with carbon steel of some kind at the edge. I don't actually see a proper hamon line, and the polish is pretty uneven. This sword could be through hardened. All these point to relatively low quality in my opinion.
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Post by sniperdiplomat on May 10, 2024 2:38:40 GMT
It looks like it is what the chinese call "damascus," with carbon steel of some kind at the edge. I don't actually see a proper hamon line, and the polish is pretty uneven. This sword could be through hardened. All these point to relatively low quality in my opinion. The hamon is slight and I was told it was used as a competition cutter. |
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Post by Sir Thorfinn on May 10, 2024 13:05:23 GMT
Who made it?
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Post by sniperdiplomat on May 10, 2024 17:37:23 GMT
Lol that's a great question. I have no idea. Just have the small back story to it and trying to determine what's the worth, so I can make an offer |
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Post by mrstabby on May 10, 2024 17:56:01 GMT
Without more pictures or the maker, your guess is as good as ours unfortunately. Could be a 100$ chinese blade, could be a bad picture where you don't see the Hamon.
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Post by sniperdiplomat on May 10, 2024 23:23:20 GMT
I wish I knew more. I just don't see many high quality blades with that much of a pattern and that causes pause to me to question it. Maybe that's my main concern.
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Post by Lonely Wolf Forge on May 13, 2024 17:25:07 GMT
looks like most chinatanas. probably worth about 200 bucks.
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Post by sniperdiplomat on May 13, 2024 20:26:26 GMT
Ok good news, I have more pictures! Let me know what you think. Thanks! |
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Post by sniperdiplomat on May 15, 2024 20:31:30 GMT
Bump. Anyone have some thoughts on these pics above?
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Post by nddave on May 16, 2024 11:58:02 GMT
Bump. Anyone have some thoughts on these pics above? Looks mid tier Chinese production katana so between around $200-$400 original retail. With due to the cheaper fittings probably on the lower half of that estimate. |
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Post by sniperdiplomat on May 16, 2024 13:50:58 GMT
Bump. Anyone have some thoughts on these pics above? Looks mid tier Chinese production katana so between around $200-$400 original retail. With due to the cheaper fittings probably on the lower half of that estimate. I would normally agree with you but I could only find these fittings from sites saying they are import only from Japan. Close match to Tozando |
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Post by jester on May 16, 2024 18:42:58 GMT
I'm kinda confused.
Definitely a Chinatana but not a bad one at all. From what I see:
- fittings are definitely Japan imported, could be Ikedaart, Tozando or Noshudo. GOOD
- samegawa is premium. Never seen a Chinatana with such large nodes. GOOD
- for identical reasons, it might be fake. BAD
- end knots are reversed. Typical in China, impossible in Japan. BAD
- seppa is custom. GOOD
- saya is not a production one, at least not one that I know. GOOD
- but is also looks cheap. BAD
I'd say offer $300 and see what happens.
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Post by sniperdiplomat on May 16, 2024 18:51:06 GMT
I'm kinda confused. Definitely a Chinatana but not a bad one at all. From what I see: - fittings are definitely Japan imported, could be Ikedaart, Tozando or Noshudo. GOOD - samegawa is premium. Never seen a Chinatana with such large nodes. GOOD - for identical reasons, it might be fake. BAD - end knots are reversed. Typical in China, impossible in Japan. BAD - seppa is custom. GOOD - saya is not a production one, at least not one that I know. GOOD - but is also looks cheap. BAD I'd say offer $300 and see what happens. Thank you for the insight. These are points I was looking for. If I find out anymore info, I will let you know. Thanks again! |
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