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Post by bvpham on May 22, 2023 13:09:49 GMT
hello all I am very new to collecting and recently visited a person who is selling some military weapons. He obtained this sword 50 years ago in a trade and appears to be a French naval officer sword, model 1837. It has all of the distinguishing marks as well as the sheath. The blade is not sharpened though. With an unsharpened blade, does that make this a reproduction? Are there other ways to tell of the authenticity? Sorry for the poor pictures. thank you in advance Attachments:
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Post by treeslicer on May 22, 2023 16:57:19 GMT
hello all I am very new to collecting and recently visited a person who is selling some military weapons. He obtained this sword 50 years ago in a trade and appears to be a French naval officer sword, model 1837. It has all of the distinguishing marks as well as the sheath. The blade is not sharpened though. With an unsharpened blade, does that make this a reproduction? Are there other ways to tell of the authenticity? Sorry for the poor pictures. thank you in advance Where did you find this? I want that spear.
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Post by mrstabby on May 22, 2023 17:11:08 GMT
Unsharpened means it might be a drill/parade sword or something, this does not necessarily mean its a repro. Look at the blade, are there any stamps on it near the guard on either side?
I want the spear too, and the sword next to it looks interesting as well. And the old-timey flare gun, damn I want one now....
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Post by bvpham on May 30, 2023 1:05:01 GMT
Unsharpened means it might be a drill/parade sword or something, this does not necessarily mean its a repro. Look at the blade, are there any stamps on it near the guard on either side?
I want the spear too, and the sword next to it looks interesting as well. And the old-timey flare gun, damn I want one now....
Thanks for your thoughts. The sword does have the initials near the guard , B and G or something. The spears are from Ethiopia - Maissa tribe I believe. There are several of them and he is selling his collection. He obtained these from when he lived in Ethiopia in 1970s, directly from tribe members. The flare gun is from WWI - it is British
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Post by maxdchouinard on Jun 2, 2023 13:22:54 GMT
What you have here is not an 1837 model but an 1853 model, either 1870 or 1891 variant depending on the scabbard being metal core or not. It could even be more recent, this still being the current regulation sword of the French navy, but in this case the grip would be plastic.
The 1837 has a pipeback blade and a different hilt. The 1853 first had the imperial crown over the anchors, which was removed in 1870.
The letters on the shoulder are not initials hut inspector marks, or poincons, probably from Coulaux in Klingenthal. A close up would help to date it.
The blade being dull does not mean anything,especially for later era sabres, which were only sharpened when war broke out, and many naval officers may not have even bothered as they were among the first to stop using them in combat.
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