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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2008 17:00:24 GMT
Got an Albion sharpened knightly and tried to cut with it today........... Very unsuccessfully. Out of around 15 deer park bottles 4 or 5 received gashes (cuts that did not completely go through) the rest were cut in half but the cuts are all jagged nasty tears more likely done through shear power of the swing. I don't have any video (camera batt needs charged) I stopped before my last 4 or five bottles and used my Kaze.....cut through like butter with less then half the power. I never really considered my Kaze sharp but it is compared to the secondary bevel of the knightly. Maybe a resharpen is in order? Do you have to hit at a much different angle with a euro? I tried a couple differnt (also tried cutting closer to the guard which helped a little)
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Post by alvin on Oct 17, 2008 17:25:14 GMT
ShooterMike and the others will be able to expound better than I on this but, I've found with a straight blade - proper edge alignment, strike the target close to the COP ( "sweet spot" ), sufficient velocity and use a draw cut will work. Proper edge geometry is important but, being you have an Albion, this is not the problem.
Edge sharpness is somewhat over blown in my opinion, especially with heavier blades. A few months ago a Member posted a video where he made excellent cuts on plastic bottles after demonstrating that the edge wasn't very sharp by drawing the edge across his arm without cutting himself.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2008 17:38:54 GMT
When transitioning to euro style swords I have found edge alignment to be a bit of an issue for me, perhaps playing with your grip style may help.
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Post by Marc Ridgeway on Oct 17, 2008 18:40:14 GMT
Hey, OC , I has a similar problem adjusting to Euro cutting recently... here's the thread, some GREAT stuff in there
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2008 19:09:33 GMT
Edge sharpness is somewhat over blown in my opinion, especially with heavier blades. A few months ago a Member posted a video where he made excellent cuts on plastic bottles after demonstrating that the edge wasn't very sharp by drawing the edge across his arm without cutting himself. I agree regarding the edge sharpness, and found that video very interesting as well. Edge alignment at impact with the target does seem to be much more critical with the Euro swords, and requires some practice especially with the single hand swords.
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Post by 293master293 on Oct 17, 2008 20:23:15 GMT
If you are inexperienced, cutting with a curved sword will always be easier than cutting with a strait one.
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Oct 17, 2008 23:48:53 GMT
I think the biggest thing thats gone unmentioned in this thread is the need to cut at a downward angle through the swing. Horizintal swings will send them flying pretty easily. A downward angle kind of presses them into the stand in such a way that they will stay on while you're cutting through - if you get my drift.
Try about 20 degrees above horizintal. Add edge alignment to the mix, speed, and a sharpish sword and you'll be home and hosed.
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Post by alvin on Oct 17, 2008 23:54:06 GMT
That's true but, swords should cut from any angle - up - down - horizontal - diagonally. Learning proper technique is probably the best way to go. Using the downward cuts are easier to succeed with and are good for, I suppose, building confidence.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2008 1:26:29 GMT
Funnily enough I find my edge alignment is often the best on my unterhau.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2008 14:07:21 GMT
I was pretty disparraged with the cutting, one thing that was very satisfying was thrusting (the times I did hit my target ) There was no resistance at all in thrusting through a target, but hitting a 2 1/2 round bottle with a straight thrust was slightly harder then I thought. I will say the knightly is one friggin tough blade, and you get plenty of feedback "ting" on the really bad cuts.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2008 23:22:39 GMT
I began to sharpen one side, lightly file to blend secondary bevel. Then hit with various grades of paper with 3 in 1 to lube. Praciticed the hand shake grip and tried some 2 liter bottles. Still not as nice as I'd like but a definite improvement.
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