alinkinthechain
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Post by alinkinthechain on Nov 5, 2022 3:45:22 GMT
Hey all, I was browsing around and I got into a rabbit hole of some less discussed historical swords (more on that later) and ended up on some Honshu Boshin reviews. These things have been out there for a while and there are definitely some mixed reviews. However, one of the models that I don't see purchased or reviewed very much is the Honshu Double Edged sword.
I'm looking at this sword and am thinking "boy, there's a lot wrong with this sword, but it's not all bad." the main concern is that the grip is too long and the pommel cannot be fastened to the tang in any structurally sound way at that angle. But if that handle was cut down and some other mods were done to it, I think this would be a decent tactical/apocalyptic single hander! Specifically a pallasch, or "straight saber" as some know it by. Used in the 18th and 19th century as a cavalry weapon, it was commonly seen around the battlefield with the more popular(?) saber. Any Richard Sharpe fans would immediately recognize the 1796 heavy cavalry sword (not to be confused with the saber!) that he used.
I think that at the current price point, this may make a decent investment for a cool costume project
I've seen some reviews around, including tsmspace's thread on it and its pommel coming off. I also saw what youtube had to offer. Anyone else have any experience with it?
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Nov 5, 2022 4:05:54 GMT
The Double Edge Ninja sword I assume? In the meantime UC brought out a few double edged swords.
I own one and I like it. Usually the UC Honshu swords are too heavy for my taste, esp. too blade heavy. Surprisingly this sword isn't and has a good mass distribution and handling due to simple changes of the cross section along the blade, even without substantial distal taper.
Afaik the pommel sits on a threaded rod and is not impossible to break off, I still didn't read that this happens often. But even in that case the rest of the hilt is stable due to the epoxied grip. It's a budget gem in my eyes.
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alinkinthechain
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Post by alinkinthechain on Nov 5, 2022 14:10:18 GMT
Yes, the "ninja sword" lol. That is a good way to classify it, although it feels like it's its own animal.
Have you ever disassembled it and took a look at the tang? Probably impossible with the pommel there. Not a fan of the weld job but hey, for $130 and a glowing review like that, it seems like a good pick for a project
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Nov 5, 2022 14:18:04 GMT
I screwed off the similar grip bolts at my Boshin kat and found just the tang (thickness ok) or better the holes there and epoxy, I couldn't remove the grip. And I nearly ruined the bolts because they are made of very soft metal. So I didn't try the same on the sword. IIrc someone here in the forum disassembled the whole hilt and the tang was ok too. Just the rod for the pommel is a possible breaking point.
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AJGBlack
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Post by AJGBlack on Nov 5, 2022 14:40:54 GMT
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alinkinthechain
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Post by alinkinthechain on Nov 6, 2022 21:33:45 GMT
I screwed off the similar grip bolts at my Boshin kat and found just the tang (thickness ok) or better the holes there and epoxy, I couldn't remove the grip. And I nearly ruined the bolts because they are made of very soft metal. So I didn't try the same on the sword. IIrc someone here in the forum disassembled the whole hilt and the tang was ok too. Just the rod for the pommel is a possible breaking point. How skeletonized was your tang? I believe your right, I've seen some reviews like Adventurer's Blade that disassembled a Honshu fully but I think I have seen differing amount of holes in the tang depending on the model? Not sure if that's true, or if it is whether it was an older practice they may no longer be doing
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Post by alinkinthechain on Nov 6, 2022 21:34:39 GMT
Yes, I have seen that review. Thank you for the tip about the google search! Didn't think about that one
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Nov 7, 2022 3:52:24 GMT
I just saw the holes for the bolts or nuts and didn't get the grip off. I know the Cold Steel machetes have a few holes in the tang and still are darn solid. Unfortunately I couldn't find pictures of the Honshu tangs with this search.
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Post by AJGBlack on Nov 7, 2022 15:01:03 GMT
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Post by alinkinthechain on Nov 7, 2022 16:36:57 GMT
Thank you for that link, AJ, that was very insightful
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