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Post by nerdthenord on Oct 23, 2022 20:49:05 GMT
So I’m considering for my next firearm an 1892 Carbine in .45 long colt, mostly because I can use the same ammo in my revolvers and I have quite a bit for now. I’ve heard good things about the Rossi copies of the 1892 but for like 300 more I can get a Winchester. Which would you guys recommend?
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Post by Yagoro on Oct 28, 2022 15:21:57 GMT
So I’m considering for my next firearm an 1892 Carbine in .45 long colt, mostly because I can use the same ammo in my revolvers and I have quite a bit for now. I’ve heard good things about the Rossi copies of the 1892 but for like 300 more I can get a Winchester. Which would you guys recommend? I would go with the rossi, unless the Winchester is an older model. Unless their qc has changed dramatically in the past couple years, Winchester and Remington are brands that should be avoided |
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Post by tera on Oct 28, 2022 16:28:02 GMT
Old Winchesters just go up in value, if it really is old and is in good condition. Right now I see few Winchesters on Gunbroker or GunsAmerica for under a grand, and nice ones with early manufacturing dates as high as $4k.
For a work horse, the Rossi gets the job done and leaves more room for ammo in the budget. It won't go up in value or be a collector piece, but could hold sentimental value if passed down as an heirloom.
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Post by nerdthenord on Oct 29, 2022 18:20:42 GMT
Cool. So probably the Rossi as this would be a workhorse, not a collector's item.
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Post by nerdthenord on Feb 18, 2023 2:50:48 GMT
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Post by unistat76 on Feb 25, 2023 13:18:59 GMT
A little late, but fwiw, I have a Rossi in .357 mag and I like it a lot.
There is a break in period to smooth thing out in terms of action, so be prepared to shoot it some (as if that's a problem,lol.)
On mine, there were sharp edges on interface surfaces such as the hammer and loading gate. I found them very irritating and so I rounded/radiused them a bit. Do so at your own risk or take it to a smith.
All in all I'm very happy with it and my wife and I enjoy shooting it very much.
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Post by Lord Newport on Feb 25, 2023 16:50:17 GMT
I have a number of Winchester model 94's, the newest being made in 1977, most pre 64. They are all excellent, well made rifles. I chose .44 mag over .45LC as my outdoors handgun round. My best, go to lever action is a Browning B92 in .44 mag which I own to match the S&W 629 I take into the mountains on horseback.
I looked at Rossi but found them to be a bit "rough" in finish and more importantly cycling of the actions. Everyone I knew who was a lever guy told me the Rossi would need action work to be truly serviceable...just the rumors I heard. I have never owned one to confirm.
The Winchester is more likely to hold its value over time.
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Post by carbon on Feb 25, 2023 17:47:33 GMT
If you haven't already purchased you might want to take a a look at the Henry lever actions. They offer a dozen models in 45 L/C and likely will be better made than what you would get from Rossi or current production Winchester.
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Post by tera on Feb 25, 2023 23:20:42 GMT
I like the Henry rack/pinion engineering of their lever guns, I just feel they are overpriced for what they are. Sold a lot of them when I was in the industry, and there are Henry fanatics, but never really hooked me.
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Post by nerdthenord on Feb 26, 2023 23:07:10 GMT
If you haven't already purchased you might want to take a a look at the Henry lever actions. They offer a dozen models in 45 L/C and likely will be better made than what you would get from Rossi or current production Winchester.
I was gonna buy a tactical Henry big boy X in .45 LC with high visibility sights, rails, and threaded barrel, but it sold and lever guns here are flying off the shelves faster than they can be stocked. |
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Post by nerdthenord on Feb 26, 2023 23:13:00 GMT
I have a number of Winchester model 94's, the newest being made in 1977, most pre 64. They are all excellent, well made rifles. I chose .44 mag over .45LC as my outdoors handgun round. My best, go to lever action is a Browning B92 in .44 mag which I own to match the S&W 629 I take into the mountains on horseback. I looked at Rossi but found them to be a bit "rough" in finish and more importantly cycling of the actions. Everyone I knew who was a lever guy told me the Rossi would need action work to be truly serviceable...just the rumors I heard. I have never owned one to confirm. The Winchester is more likely to hold its value over time. They keep getting .44 mag lever guns in at my favorite store and range, but since I already have two .45 LC handguns I’m likely to get a .45 LC lever gun. .44 mag likely wouldn’t be too bad in a carbine but it’s a bit too much gun for a handgun for me, at least without extensive training, but more importantly most of the .44 handguns I’ve handled were larger than was comfortable for my small hands. On a side note, I handled a new production colt Python in .357 yesterday, and normally double action triggers are hit or miss for me but this particular piece had a butter smooth double action trigger and felt great in hand. |
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Post by nerdthenord on Feb 26, 2023 23:15:08 GMT
A little late, but fwiw, I have a Rossi in .357 mag and I like it a lot. There is a break in period to smooth thing out in terms of action, so be prepared to shoot it some (as if that's a problem,lol.) On mine, there were sharp edges on interface surfaces such as the hammer and loading gate. I found them very irritating and so I rounded/radiused them a bit. Do so at your own risk or take it to a smith. All in all I'm very happy with it and my wife and I enjoy shooting it very much. A break in wouldn’t be bad, but sharp edges around the loading gate would need to be addressed. |
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Post by unistat76 on Feb 27, 2023 1:36:45 GMT
A little late, but fwiw, I have a Rossi in .357 mag and I like it a lot. There is a break in period to smooth thing out in terms of action, so be prepared to shoot it some (as if that's a problem,lol.) On mine, there were sharp edges on interface surfaces such as the hammer and loading gate. I found them very irritating and so I rounded/radiused them a bit. Do so at your own risk or take it to a smith. All in all I'm very happy with it and my wife and I enjoy shooting it very much. A break in wouldn’t be bad, but sharp edges around the loading gate would need to be addressed. Indeed. |
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Post by Lord Newport on Feb 27, 2023 5:22:51 GMT
I have a number of Winchester model 94's, the newest being made in 1977, most pre 64. They are all excellent, well made rifles. I chose .44 mag over .45LC as my outdoors handgun round. My best, go to lever action is a Browning B92 in .44 mag which I own to match the S&W 629 I take into the mountains on horseback. I looked at Rossi but found them to be a bit "rough" in finish and more importantly cycling of the actions. Everyone I knew who was a lever guy told me the Rossi would need action work to be truly serviceable...just the rumors I heard. I have never owned one to confirm. The Winchester is more likely to hold its value over time. They keep getting .44 mag lever guns in at my favorite store and range, but since I already have two .45 LC handguns I’m likely to get a .45 LC lever gun. .44 mag likely wouldn’t be too bad in a carbine but it’s a bit too much gun for a handgun for me, at least without extensive training, but more importantly most of the .44 handguns I’ve handled were larger than was comfortable for my small hands. On a side note, I handled a new production colt Python in .357 yesterday, and normally double action triggers are hit or miss for me but this particular piece had a butter smooth double action trigger and felt great in hand. .44 mag revolvers and .44 mag lever guns also shoot .44 special rounds. In fact you get one extra round of capacity with .44 special over .44 mag in a Winchester/browning .44mag lever gun. |
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Post by nerdthenord on Feb 27, 2023 5:54:38 GMT
They keep getting .44 mag lever guns in at my favorite store and range, but since I already have two .45 LC handguns I’m likely to get a .45 LC lever gun. .44 mag likely wouldn’t be too bad in a carbine but it’s a bit too much gun for a handgun for me, at least without extensive training, but more importantly most of the .44 handguns I’ve handled were larger than was comfortable for my small hands. On a side note, I handled a new production colt Python in .357 yesterday, and normally double action triggers are hit or miss for me but this particular piece had a butter smooth double action trigger and felt great in hand. .44 mag revolvers and .44 mag lever guns also shoot .44 special rounds. In fact you get one extra round of capacity with .44 special over .44 mag in a Winchester/browning .44mag lever gun. Yeah, .44 special would be what I’d run if I got one. Question: do you have any feeding issues when running.44 special in the carbine? I hear that you can get feed jams in tube mag carbines running shorter equivalents beyond the stated capacity. Or maybe I’m conflating stories of jams from .45 Schofield in .45 LC carbines... |
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Post by Lord Newport on Feb 27, 2023 9:40:04 GMT
.44 mag revolvers and .44 mag lever guns also shoot .44 special rounds. In fact you get one extra round of capacity with .44 special over .44 mag in a Winchester/browning .44mag lever gun. Yeah, .44 special would be what I’d run if I got one. Question: do you have any feeding issues when running.44 special in the carbine? I hear that you can get feed jams in tube mag carbines running shorter equivalents beyond the stated capacity. Or maybe I’m conflating stories of jams from .45 Schofield in .45 LC carbines... Never had an issue with my Winchester 94 or Browning B-92 running .44 special in them at all. Coming out of a 20 inch tube gives the .44 Special some decent energy. |
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