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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2008 23:08:51 GMT
If I were to make one are there specific tires to look for/avoid. Just wondering about messing up a sword on the steel belts in some.
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Post by YlliwCir on Oct 14, 2008 18:22:07 GMT
Hmm, OC, I don't know much about tires, do they all have steel belts? Shouldn't be an issue if you're just striking them with the edge, however when thrusting into them I catch a nick occasionally. I look at it as an opportunity to practice my edge maintenance. If I was worried about messing up my swords I wouldn't go at a tire.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2008 18:27:05 GMT
I agree with Ric. I thought most if not all tires have steel belts in them? Unless the belts are showing I wouldn't worry too much about striking them with the edge (especially if its dull - sharp edges are another issue). If you thrust well yeah, I've seen nicks from that too. In any case if you're not up to breaking out the whetstones and doing a bit of blade work, don't take a sword to a pell of any sort. Scratches, nicks etc all tend to happen during pell work.
-Sam
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2008 20:14:31 GMT
I have been using tires as pells for 4 years now. Still the original ones. Tires from smaller cars have less steel in them. The also tend to absorb the shock better. The side wall has no belting so you can thrust into that. You will not be able to penetrate the tread even with all your weight. Unless you are slice off across the top, you should never see the steel belting. The rubber is too hard and absorbs too much for the swords to bit in deep enough to hit steel. This is my current pell. The pell design consists of a thick wood post connected to a plywood board with a right angle. The bottom tire serves as a weight. On it lays another tire leaning up against the post for practicing leg shots. The second tire from the top has two holes cut into it and the wood post passes through it. It is secured in place by the right angle. The top tire has one hole cut into the bottom for the wood post to pass through as it sits on top of it. For those of you not familiar with the tire-pell project you may view it here: mysite.verizon.net/tsafa1/swordreview.htm
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Post by YlliwCir on Oct 14, 2008 20:39:16 GMT
You will not be able to penetrate the tread even with all your weight. I penetrated the tread on my tire with my KC gladius and the Hanwei hand and a half, albeit I had to put my weight into it. It's how I made my drain holes so it wouldn't hold water when it rained. Yeah, I got a few nicks in the blades.
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Post by ShooterMike on Oct 15, 2008 1:24:47 GMT
You will not be able to penetrate the tread even with all your weight. I penetrated the tread on my tire with my KC gladius and the Hanwei hand and a half, albeit I had to put my weight into it. It's how I made my drain holes so it wouldn't hold water when it rained. Yeah, I got a few nicks in the blades. I have sliced off pieces of tread that exposed little bits steel belting. But only on the edges. However, if you are using a sharp sword on a tire pell STAY AWAY from making cutting strikes to the inner rim. It is thickly steel-belted and will leave a nasty nick or dent in the edge... as I found out the hard way!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2008 15:20:46 GMT
I penetrated the tread on my tire with my KC gladius and the Hanwei hand and a half, albeit I had to put my weight into it. It's how I made my drain holes so it wouldn't hold water when it rained. Yeah, I got a few nicks in the blades. I have sliced off pieces of tread that exposed little bits steel belting. But only on the edges. However, if you are using a sharp sword on a tire pell STAY AWAY from making cutting strikes to the inner rim. It is thickly steel-belted and will leave a nasty nick or dent in the edge... as I found out the hard way! Hey I did that too Mike! The bead of the tire can really ruin your day if you hit that hard with a sharp edge. I use only katana and I have to say that I've cut through the tread to the steel tread. I suppose I shouldn't be using sharps on a tire pell but well that's all I have. Been a while though since I've taken a sword to a pell - I don't have any wasters that I'm willing to mess up on a pell right now. -Sam
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Post by ShooterMike on Oct 16, 2008 16:11:24 GMT
I have actually gotten copletely away from using sharps on the pell. However, I bought two of Gus Trim's "I-Beam Blunt Sparring Swords" one each arming sword and longsword. They make outstanding pell swords. Really, any unsharpened or dedicated blunt sword that's built like a real fighting sword should be good for tire pelling.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2008 22:44:59 GMT
Some good tips. Thanks all.
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