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Post by theonebastardsword on Sept 11, 2022 2:46:27 GMT
I went to my hunting/gunstore looking for Ballistol and only found Rem oil. Im looking for a oil with a good hold/spreading and importantly won't hurt leather.
How do Rem oil (has different variant there) compares versus Ballistol? (which I would have to order and wait for)
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Post by eastman on Sept 11, 2022 16:28:37 GMT
Rem oil is an OK lubricant for firearms and a mediocre (at best) rust preventative.
Ballistol is mineral oil made to smell really bad. It has been in use unchanged for over 100 years for metal, wood and leather (and also acts as an antiseptic on minor wounds).
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Post by theonebastardsword on Sept 11, 2022 16:41:06 GMT
Rem oil is an OK lubricant for firearms and a mediocre (at best) rust preventative. Ballistol is mineral oil made to smell really bad. It has been in use unchanged for over 100 years for metal, wood and leather (and also acts as an antiseptic on minor wounds). What make it OK for leather but not pure mineral oil?
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Post by eastman on Sept 11, 2022 16:59:00 GMT
ballistol.com/uses/leather-care/The biological oils commonly sold for leather care (mink oil, neatsfoot oil) are actually terrible for long-term protection since they oxidize and make the leather brittle.
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Post by Gonavychief on Jan 5, 2024 17:51:11 GMT
I have used both for years and gotton the same results. When I don't feel like smelling Ballistol I use remington. None of my guns have had any issues using either product. Saying Ballitol is better than Remington is a stretch. Both do the job and one smells like crap.
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Post by madirish on Jan 5, 2024 22:08:50 GMT
I have no qualms about using Rem Oil, but have started to try CLP Breakfree Collector oil as it is thicker.
Edit: Meant to say, "I won't put either on leather"
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Post by larason2 on Jan 6, 2024 0:13:34 GMT
I've used mineral oil on my swords for years now, and it works very well. More recently I got some choji oil. Don't have much experience with mineral oil on leather, but I would expect it to be no better or worse than any other oil. Oil isn't a great leather conditioner or protectant. I'd use a leather protectant on leather, the one I make is 2 parts almond oil (sweet), 1 part bees wax and 1 part cocoa butter. Melt it all together, take it off the heat, then rub it in as soon as it's cool enough to handle.
I don't think rem oil or ballistol are a bad choice for sword blades. They are both very similar to mineral oil.
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Post by mrstabby on Jan 6, 2024 9:00:30 GMT
I am using a petroleum jelly/mineral oil mix now, because it sticks better than pure oil and won't drip off over time, it's also non toxic and has little to no smell. Ballistol is a good rust preventative, I have used it a long time, most firearm lubricants will work well in my experience but Ballistol is relatively high up there in corrosion prevention (I am not sure if there are different recipes according to location like with WD40, so there could be differences between US and EU). What I don't like about Ballistol is, that it can produce a sticky crust when left over a long period. In the end I had to stop using it because I began hating the smell (and got a bit of an allergic reaction from it when I used it for longer). Also it is somewhat water soluable, so it will become much less effective in wet environments (that's why it becomes whitesih when it gets wet, it forms a suspension in water, pure mineral oil won't). I haven't used Rem Oil. For my leather I use a beeswax leather conditioner from the super market, It works well restoring damaged leather. I think mineral oil will lead to earlier cracking of the leather over time. Ballistol is said to be good on leather (many hunters around my parts use it for everything, and I mean it - leather, wood, wounds, hair....) but I couldn't deal with the smell so I have never used it on leather.
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Post by larason2 on Jan 6, 2024 16:33:28 GMT
I think it's worth mentioning that all my swords and knives are polished with stones, and that when polished this way, oil sticks to the blade quite well, and is well distributed. If you find oil beads on your sword surface, then you'll need something better than just mineral oil to protect it. I don't have much experience here, but the oil/petroleum jelly mix sounds like a good idea. If the oil doesn't bead, plain mineral oil is fine.
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Post by carbon on Jan 6, 2024 16:40:00 GMT
I have Ballistol on the shelf, but only use it for cleaning air rifles. If you're looking for long term storage don't waste your money on either, Break Free Collector Oil will work much better. For that matter so will Lucas gun oil, Break Free CLP, or most other quality gun oils and from my experience Rem Oil doesn't belong on that list.
Edited to add: Use a non-residue leaving solvent to clean the metal before applying either. I use Birchwood Casey Gun Scrubber but others will work.
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