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Post by crimson421 on Aug 28, 2022 21:22:18 GMT
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I'm hoping someone with experience can answer whether the ryumon hand painted dragon katana (RY-3200) is clay tempered or not?
I purchased one because I wanted a more traditionally made katana for my collection and within my budget, the sword is beautiful and was sold to me as clay tempered 1060, however after inspecting it I can tell the hamon is wirebrushed, this may just be over the real hamon but it's not a good sign. After researching it a bit more I'm still none the wiser, some say it is others say it's not. All I know for sure is that the hamon is 100% not real.
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Post by Yagoro on Aug 28, 2022 21:24:40 GMT
Hi all I'm hoping someone with experience can answer whether the ryumon hand painted dragon katana (RY-3200) is clay tempered or not? I purchased one because I wanted a more traditionally made katana for my collection and within my budget, the sword is beautiful and was sold to me as clay tempered 1060, however after inspecting it I can tell the hamon is wirebrushed, this may just be over the real hamon but it's not a good sign. After researching it a bit more I'm still none the wiser, some say it is others say it's not. All I know for sure is that the hamon is 100% not real. is it the 600 dollar one? if it is the hamon is legit. Otherwise send a link of what one you got
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Post by Yagoro on Aug 28, 2022 21:30:22 GMT
if it is wirebrushed, sorry to say but its fake. You may be able to return it saying its not clay tempered as advertised. If you do dragon king has a couple good models with real hamon in the 300-400 dollar price range
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Post by crimson421 on Aug 28, 2022 21:59:07 GMT
if it is wirebrushed, sorry to say but its fake. You may be able to return it saying its not clay tempered as advertised. If you do dragon king has a couple good models with real hamon in the 300-400 dollar price range Hey yeah it's definitely a wirebrush hamon, a nice one but still fake. I know that some companies do this even on real clay tempered swords however instead of spending the time to bring the real one out. I can return it but if I was to know that it really is clay tempered and just the hamon is fake I could probably live with it.
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Post by crimson421 on Aug 28, 2022 22:00:20 GMT
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Post by Yagoro on Aug 28, 2022 22:01:19 GMT
if it is wirebrushed, sorry to say but its fake. You may be able to return it saying its not clay tempered as advertised. If you do dragon king has a couple good models with real hamon in the 300-400 dollar price range Hey yeah it's definitely a wirebrush hamon, a nice one but still fake. I know that some companies do this even on real clay tempered swords however instead of spending the time to bring the real one out. I can return it but if I was to know that it really is clay tempered and just the hamon is fake I could probably live with it. If you dont mind: how much did you pay for it? because musashi makes swords that are actually clay tempered in the 160-200 price range
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Post by crimson421 on Aug 28, 2022 22:07:24 GMT
Hey yeah it's definitely a wirebrush hamon, a nice one but still fake. I know that some companies do this even on real clay tempered swords however instead of spending the time to bring the real one out. I can return it but if I was to know that it really is clay tempered and just the hamon is fake I could probably live with it. If you dont mind: how much did you pay for it? because musashi makes swords that are actually clay tempered in the 160-200 price range Probably more than I should have lol, the link I left has the price £350
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Post by Yagoro on Aug 28, 2022 22:08:32 GMT
If you dont mind: how much did you pay for it? because musashi makes swords that are actually clay tempered in the 160-200 price range Probably more than I should have lol, the link I left has the price £350 Yeah if im being honest you should get a refund. You can get a lot of sword for that price
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Post by crimson421 on Aug 28, 2022 22:09:14 GMT
If you dont mind: how much did you pay for it? because musashi makes swords that are actually clay tempered in the 160-200 price range Probably more than I should have lol, the link I left has the price £350 It's worth noting however that the finish on the fittings and tsuba are really nice, hence why I went for it, I find it hard to believe that in that price bracket and with the level of quality on the rest of the sword that they wouldn't make it DH, but then again it is a mass production model so I don't know.
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Post by Yagoro on Aug 28, 2022 22:10:49 GMT
Probably more than I should have lol, the link I left has the price £350 It's worth noting however that the finish on the fittings and tsuba are really nice, hence why I went for it, I find it hard to believe that in that price bracket and with the level of quality on the rest of the sword that they wouldn't make it DH, but then again it is a mass production model so I don't know. Mind posting pics or linking a listing for it?
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Post by crimson421 on Aug 28, 2022 22:11:55 GMT
It's worth noting however that the finish on the fittings and tsuba are really nice, hence why I went for it, I find it hard to believe that in that price bracket and with the level of quality on the rest of the sword that they wouldn't make it DH, but then again it is a mass production model so I don't know. Mind posting pics or linking a listing for it? Yeah sorry I did post a link but didn't quote you in. www.blades-uk.com/products.php?id=4499
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Post by Yagoro on Aug 28, 2022 22:13:58 GMT
hamon on that looks legit. Mind taking a pic of yours?
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Post by crimson421 on Aug 28, 2022 22:14:06 GMT
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Post by Yagoro on Aug 28, 2022 22:15:51 GMT
First one has a legit hamon, second one is monotempered and doesnt seem to have a wire brushed hamon
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Post by crimson421 on Aug 28, 2022 22:18:41 GMT
First one has a legit hamon, second one is monotempered and doesnt seem to have a wire brushed hamon Yeah several sites sell it as clay tempered and others don't. How do I post pictures? Have to do it through Imgur or something and post link?
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Post by Yagoro on Aug 28, 2022 22:20:06 GMT
First one has a legit hamon, second one is monotempered and doesnt seem to have a wire brushed hamon Yeah several sites sell it as clay tempered and others don't. How do I post pictures? Have to do it through Imgur or something and post link? you could make a google photo album and just link it
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Post by crimson421 on Aug 28, 2022 22:25:41 GMT
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Post by crimson421 on Aug 28, 2022 22:28:35 GMT
In the right light you can see tiny scratches going from the hamon to edge and there's a repeating pattern you can see in picture 1, just after the first wave there's a small cloudy smudge, this repeats twice on each side of the blade.
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Post by crimson421 on Aug 28, 2022 22:31:17 GMT
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Post by Yagoro on Aug 28, 2022 23:12:35 GMT
yep that hamon is real. or it might be acid etched
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