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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2022 3:14:45 GMT
Let's say if you needed to protect yourself or someone else and you knew an attack could potentially happen, what would you do to protect your head?
In street fights, I normally see a lot of instances of where it's not the punch that drops a person that is most dangerous but their limp fall onto the concrete, their skull bouncing as they land
I started wondering to myself, what would be a good way to protect your head. Hypothetically, a bicycle helmet would probably be the best one, but it would be sorta goofy to walk around wearing one.
I have seen these padding you can buy for your hat, a bump cap insert, some people use them in construction to protect against bumping their head. I wonder if it would be substantial to wear one under a cap for the instances of protecting your head against the fall?
Any other better hat ideas is welcome too.
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Post by randomnobody on Aug 26, 2022 7:55:14 GMT
Ride a motorcycle, never take the helmet off. Or get one of those super-cool foam rubber sparring helmets and wear that everywhere you go. Otherwise, try not to get into any fights, and hope you don't get randomly punched in the head.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Aug 26, 2022 8:34:49 GMT
A turban? I also think that some of the hats worn in the 19thC. gave some protection, bowlers f. e.
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Post by pgandy on Aug 26, 2022 14:30:33 GMT
A turban immediately came to mind but I see Andi beat me to it. They saved many a man from a sword cut. But probably not so much for a modern urban man. The trick is to keep it on your head, more about that later. I would say a hat with much cloth padding underneath with a small brim. My daily wardrobe consists of a cane and hat, but I don’t pad the hat although I could and it would be more effective for you scenario. I wear the cover mainly for sun protection and prefer a 4” brim but will accept at 3½”. I would recommend something smaller than 3½” for your proposes as to get better visibility from above. Regardless, you will need some means to secure whatever you wear, hence the problem with a turban. In a scuffle, especially, if you go down, whatever you are wearing up stairs is coming off if not secured. I do wear a chin cord aka chin strap or stampede cord. Most of the time its coiled inside the crown but when necessary it goes behind my head or under my chin depending. Most of my hats are of wool felt but do have them of rabbit fir and leather. The leather would probably offer the most protection.
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Post by glendon on Aug 26, 2022 15:27:52 GMT
Let's say if you needed to protect yourself or someone else and you knew an attack could potentially happen, what would you do to protect your head? In street fights, I normally see a lot of instances of where it's not the punch that drops a person that is most dangerous but their limp fall onto the concrete, their skull bouncing as they land I started wondering to myself, what would be a good way to protect your head. Hypothetically, a bicycle helmet would probably be the best one, but it would be sorta goofy to walk around wearing one. I have seen these padding you can buy for your hat, a bump cap insert, some people use them in construction to protect against bumping their head. I wonder if it would be substantial to wear one under a cap for the instances of protecting your head against the fall? Any other better hat ideas is welcome. You have been less than forthcoming regarding the circumstances of this "hypothetical": If your query is actually, "Since I know I'm going to be involved in a riot, how can I mitigate injuries from being thumped on the head by a policeman?" then you wear a helmet--or, you stay home and ponder your politics. If your query is actually, "Since I know I'm going to walk down a sketchy street to meet my connection, how can I mitigate injuries from being thumped on the head by a mugger?" then you wear a helmet--or, you stop doing drugs. If your query is actually, "Since I know this guy said he's going to bust my head with a pool cue if I win the tournament today, how can I mitigate injuries from being thumped on the head by a biker?" then you wear a helmet-- or, you stop hanging out in seedy bars. All humor aside, if the threat is real, and serious enough you need to consider armor, but you are concerned with looking "goofy", then your head has already been damaged. Put on the bike helmet and save what's left. The utilization of the brain is the best way to protect the head.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2022 15:31:23 GMT
I've considered getting a motorcycle just so I can wear a helmet, funny enough. Sadly, in canada, it gets icy fast. A bicycle is another i considered. I've also considered a pith hat, but I might look out of place if I'm not exploring ancient ruins for treasure haha
A turban is a very good idea. I would look super out of place in the area I am at but I can easily use the idea in different ways. I heard some guys used to hide a smaller helmet under their turban too, so the idea of combining some sort of padding under a head wrap is pretty genius
As for a wide brimmed hat, I heard of one guy who would add padding to his to make it shock absorbent for this purpose. I'm not sure what he used though
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2022 15:33:41 GMT
Let's say if you needed to protect yourself or someone else and you knew an attack could potentially happen, what would you do to protect your head? In street fights, I normally see a lot of instances of where it's not the punch that drops a person that is most dangerous but their limp fall onto the concrete, their skull bouncing as they land I started wondering to myself, what would be a good way to protect your head. Hypothetically, a bicycle helmet would probably be the best one, but it would be sorta goofy to walk around wearing one. I have seen these padding you can buy for your hat, a bump cap insert, some people use them in construction to protect against bumping their head. I wonder if it would be substantial to wear one under a cap for the instances of protecting your head against the fall? Any other better hat ideas is welcome. You have been less than forthcoming regarding the circumstances of this "hypothetical": If your query is actually, "Since I know I'm going to be involved in a riot, how can I mitigate injuries from being thumped on the head by a policeman?" then you wear a helmet--or, you stay home and ponder your politics. If your query is actually, "Since I know I'm going to walk down a sketchy street to meet my connection, how can I mitigate injuries from being thumped on the head by a mugger?" then you wear a helmet--or, you stop doing drugs. If your query is actually, "Since I know this guy said he's going to bust my head with a pool cue if I win the tournament today, how can I mitigate injuries from being thumped on the head by a biker?" then you wear a helmet-- or, you stop hanging out in seedy bars. All humor aside, if the threat is real, and serious enough you need to consider armor, but you are concerned with looking "goofy", then your head has already been damaged. Put on the bike helmet and save what's left. The utilization of the brain is the best way to protect the head. You couldn't be more off. I have no interest in riots and politics. I just live in a dangerous place full of gangs and dangerous druggies. Walking around wearing full armour all the time in canada would not only by suspicious to a police officer, as it would make me look like I was looking for trouble, but also, people might see my gear and wish to rob me. You have no idea what predicament I am in, so if you don't wanna be helpful, piss off. Make your own thread and go be snarky in it all you want I'm asking for a discreet way to protect my head, if I'm wearing a helmet, I'm gonna stand out like a sore thumb. If I stand out, I'm more likely to be attacked Also throwing out there, I don't drink. I don't go to seedy bars. I live on an island that has a drug epidemic. Two people went missing, one person was murdered, and another was attacked by a machete, in the past year or so. I don't wanna be defenseless and caught off guard and I don't wanna stand out But I already got an idea thanks to the useful people in this thread. Lots of good ideas
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Post by tera on Aug 26, 2022 16:11:34 GMT
Gear is good, training is better.
There's a long list of ways to shut down someone's brainbox besides it hitting a curb. The first thing you learn in Aikido is how to fall safely. You need that to survive all that comes next. Other Arts are less considerate, but considerably more combat effective. I say Krav Maga and Judo/BJJ as a combo is a good bet.
As for living in a sketchy neighborhood, a line I've heard from many self defense instructors is "If you look like food, you will become food." So, maintain situational awareness (phone in pocket, head on swivel), walk at a moderate but confident pace, and "don't be there" wherever possible. Take safer routes when available. Make the criminals look for easier targets.
EDIT: If our specific mission here is how to avoid overly serious head injury when hitting the ground, this is a dangerous mindset. Most fights end on the ground, and if you're the one there in a disadvantage, you are about to sustain way more injury than a head bump.
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Post by pgandy on Aug 26, 2022 16:33:35 GMT
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Post by RufusScorpius on Aug 26, 2022 20:16:18 GMT
It doesn't matter. I've seen enough movies to know that helmets amplify head injuries, not prevent them in any way. In any event, if you are involved in a fight and wearing a helmet, then you should take the helmet off and throw it away so you can speak you witty banter more clearly.
I wouldn't worry about it. Helmets are for NPCs.
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Post by RufusScorpius on Aug 26, 2022 20:26:34 GMT
... My daily wardrobe consists of a cane and hat, but I don’t pad the hat although I could and it would be more effective for you scenario. ... Most of my hats are of wool felt but do have them of rabbit fir and leather. The leather would probably offer the most protection. Would you suppose that wearing an actual rabbit on the head would solve the visibility problem and provide more protection in a fall? Or would wearing a rabbit on the head protect a person from assault in the first place because a goon wouldn't want to get involved with somebody walking around in public like that?
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Aug 26, 2022 20:32:07 GMT
Humbug! Wear a turtle, that's real protection and I've never heard of a man with a turtle on the head that was attacked! (The man, not the turtle)
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Post by RufusScorpius on Aug 26, 2022 21:55:06 GMT
Humbug! Wear a turtle, that's real protection and I've never heard of a man with a turtle on the head that was attacked! (The man, not the turtle) I guess that would depend a great deal on what species of turtle is being used for a helmet....
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Post by pgandy on Aug 26, 2022 23:31:13 GMT
... My daily wardrobe consists of a cane and hat, but I don’t pad the hat although I could and it would be more effective for you scenario. ... Most of my hats are of wool felt but do have them of rabbit fir and leather. The leather would probably offer the most protection. Would you suppose that wearing an actual rabbit on the head would solve the visibility problem and provide more protection in a fall? Or would wearing a rabbit on the head protect a person from assault in the first place because a goon wouldn't want to get involved with somebody walking around in public like that? If you read more carefully I said that I “I wear the cover mainly for sun protection” so stop lifting from text to suit your needs. I stated the materials to better describe my hats. Rabbit fir is found in the better quality hats though not the best, while wool felt in the lower grades, certainly not to run out and buy a felt hat solely in order for protection from falling. Although I have hit the deck a couple of times while wearing one with no injury. Meh seemed concerned about wearing something that would blind in and I was merely throwing out suggestions and padding one of those would help. Learning to take a fall as suggested would be a big step in helping. My hats. There was a time that I changed hats more frequently than my underwear, perhaps three times a day. Brain storming is what we called it back in my working days. That is throwing out ideas regardless how wild they are.
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Post by pellius on Aug 26, 2022 23:35:03 GMT
Them boots, though!
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Post by paulmuaddib on Aug 26, 2022 23:46:11 GMT
Hope you check those hats for spiders before you put them on. And the boots. Just gonna say I’m jealous pgandy.
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Post by pgandy on Aug 26, 2022 23:51:46 GMT
Hope you check those hats for spiders before you put them on. And the boots. Just gonna say I’m jealous pgandy. Thanks. I learned a long time ago to check for insects especially scorpions.
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Post by Arlequin on Aug 27, 2022 5:31:58 GMT
For an urban environment, you could wear skullcaps and bandanas with padded inserts, naturally you'll have to carefully choose non threatening designs and colors to not arouse authority. could probably even macuyver a few metal studs in their if you're really worried about getting thumped in the head. And in the colder months you could get away with bulkier caps. Like others have said, the best protection is avoiding conflict period. Life isn't a game, all it takes it one hit random hit and it's lights out permanently. Stay safe man, I know it's tough being stuck in a sempriniesque area.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Aug 27, 2022 6:18:59 GMT
A steel skull cap en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cervellierehidden under a baseball cap. Wearing a baseball cap is not as salient as a turban. Better with some padding but then you need a really big baseball cap (Texan?).
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Post by pgandy on Aug 27, 2022 12:44:40 GMT
Cervelliere, that’s the name I couldn’t think of when I gave GRFB’s rendition they call a Secret Helmet. I'm sure there are other versions by other companies. If you get that type of helmet, make sure there is a way to secure whatever to your head. If not, when you go down you can count on that coming off your head. Also make sure there is sufficient padding or a liner inside so that the metal doesn’t come in direct contact with your head.
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