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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2008 3:54:57 GMT
Does anyone own this sword? I've been trying to find user reviews of it, no luck so far. I wonder how this compares to Gen 2 swords, or even Darksword models, for toughness, rigidity, tightness in the fittings and such. I know th eGen 2 Maximillian is tough as nails, just re-watched Mr. Southren's review/destruction test. It's a very attractive sword, I like the hilt, grip, and pommel better than the Gen 2 Max, but I want a tough, durable sword with a rigid blade. Any input? Thanks! Shoulda included a pic, I guess.
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Post by septofclansinclair on Oct 1, 2008 16:40:24 GMT
I don't know much about this particular model, but I think it's probably (like many of their older models) a bit heavier than the newer ones. Darksword makes very rigid blades, but without knowing your price point and style desire I wouldn't know what to recommend. Can you give us more info?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2008 21:50:18 GMT
I'd certainly pay more for the better sword, and I'm pretty sure Gen 2 probably makes the 'tougher' sword. I was just wondering about the thickness, durability of the tang and such, and overall durability. It sports a significant looking ricasso, , but does Valiant continue that through the tang, as, perhaps, the Gen 2 Maximillian would have? Overall, I like the look of the Valor more than anything Gen 2 currently offers. It lists at 1 oz. less than 4 pounds, quite a bit, and I wonder if that translates into toughness and durability, or if it's just heavy. I'm glad it doesn't waste money on a (good) scabbard, as, if I get this one, I'll try my hand at making a wooden scab for it. Not being able to hold this sword in my hand with a Gen2 like the Max or 12th Century, I wonder what I'd see if I were able to directly compare them.
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Post by enkidu on Oct 1, 2008 22:54:16 GMT
For a product of Valiant basic line this is one of the few who seems to be worth taking a look IMO. But then again unless someone takes the plunge we may never know...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2008 1:32:17 GMT
Hey Death-dude
I according with the weight I belive that "sword of valor " it's heavy and Maximilian sword means toughness and durability..
I´ve handled the sword of Arundel (it's not the model you want, but maybe helps) of the new line basic models... it's heavy and the blade it's pretty stiff to me.. but I don't recommend it for many cutting swords.. call me crazy but i don't have a good feeling about cut with the Arundel, maybe if you like it for a few tests .. but not for an intensive cutting rally!.
I would like the Maximilian .. definetly .. this sword seems resist a lot of abuses, maybe isn't attractive as the "Sword of Valor" but seems a nice one
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2008 2:22:30 GMT
I would like the Maximilian .. definetly .. this sword seems resist a lot of abuses, maybe isn't attractive as the "Sword of Valor" but seems a nice one Yeah, that's the impression I get...that the Gen 2 would be the finer blade, but the Valor is so attractive....maybe what I want is the grip, hilt, and pommel from the Valor on the Gen 2 blade? Watching Paul's destruction test shows it would be a very tough sword. If we had an invading horde, I'd get the Maxi no doubt! But, as that isn't imminent, and I want a good cutting sword that looks appealing, distinctive, it makes me want the Valor. Deep down, I want a Gen 2 sword, but, honestly, none of their styles appeal to me. I'm sure a 12th Century would be a fine blade, but it's looks don't 'grab' me. I know Gen 2 is planning more models, perhaps I'll just wait, or go look at the Darksword offerings again. But, I had hoped since Valiant makes their notable upscale lines, that this 'standard' line model would have the same toughness. But, please, if anyone else has this sword, or other Valiant standard line models that are comparable, I'm interested in your observations.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2008 6:20:09 GMT
Well...there is the new valiant bristol coming out soon. It looks similar to the sword of valor and the atrim based swords all seems to be very nice so far. www.valiant-armoury.com/va/Bristol_new.jpgOf course if you can afford it, the Albion Ringeck is also similar (albeit a longsword and not an arming sword)...at a measly price of 800 dollars hehe. www.albion-swords.com/swords/albion/nextgen/sword-medieval-ringeck-xva.htmIf you need tough, Albions are tougher then any gen 2, DSA or valiants. Their HT is one of the best in the business and so they make an incredibly flexible, tough blade. If you can afford it. You did say you'd pay more for a better sword...so how much more? As for the valiant's basic line. If you wanna do a lot of cutting, I really can't recommend them in general. Their handles are bad for such activities in general. Too round, too slippery and/or other issues. I haven't see this sword in particular so none of that may apply.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2008 20:20:00 GMT
Well...there is the new valiant bristol coming out soon. It looks similar to the sword of valor and the atrim based swords all seems to be very nice so far. www.valiant-armoury.com/va/Bristol_new.jpgOf course if you can afford it, the Albion Ringeck is also similar (albeit a longsword and not an arming sword)...at a measly price of 800 dollars hehe. www.albion-swords.com/swords/albion/nextgen/sword-medieval-ringeck-xva.htmIf you need tough, Albions are tougher then any gen 2, DSA or valiants. Their HT is one of the best in the business and so they make an incredibly flexible, tough blade. If you can afford it. You did say you'd pay more for a better sword...so how much more? As for the valiant's basic line. If you wanna do a lot of cutting, I really can't recommend them in general. Their handles are bad for such activities in general. Too round, too slippery and/or other issues. I haven't see this sword in particular so none of that may apply. Thanks, Cold. Nope, can't afford the Albion,,,that is, sure, I could afford one, but the whining thereafter from my wife would severely mitigate the fun. A squire line Knightly sharpened would do all I'd ask of it, I'm sure. I'd rather stay under $300, so I'm looking at Darkswords as well. Would prefer peened, however. The Bristol is nice, I'd thought the same when comparing them. The impression I'm getting (wish there was a brick-and-mortar store to compare them in hand!) is that the valiant sword might not be as tough as I'd want. Pity, it's a very nice looking, balanced looking sword. If I were to get it, I'd try my hand at making a wood scabbard for it. Is the Valiant standard line peened, or screwed on? The Valiant Valor is threaded, and the pommel is screwed on, I've learned. How long for Gen 2 to come out with a new model or two?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2008 0:26:07 GMT
The valiants atrim lines are heat treated VERY well. Even Gus was very surprised and very happy with the level of heat treatment on those blades. The bristol should also have a normal line like the castille did if you don't care about the fancier scabbard for 280. If I get another sub 300 sword, that would be my pick. Not that my gen 2 is really sub 300 as I spent around 400 dollars for it . As for albions...well I got my first one on wendsday and trust me, you'll never be sorry to get one of those(assuming you know what you want in a sword). My wife is also very mad at me that I did so since I did buy a custom sword (for more then my albion mind you) a week before I ordered it. Of course I did have the excuse of the price increase...but that's not really working so well. But hey, if you buy her a ruby pendant at the same time, she'll be less mad (or in my case, make her one since that is much cheaper hehe).
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