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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2008 21:45:11 GMT
The definition of "weapon" can be "any means of attack or defense". Shields and armor meet that definition, and I'd like to see discussion/reviews of them.
You might want to consider a category of missile weapons other than bows - javelins, slings, boomsticks, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2008 23:41:41 GMT
Well, there ya go. Ok, I'm a convert, I see no reason not to include reviews of smashy things as well. Plus, the testing videos should have some visceral appeal that some of the sword testing does not - clean cuts vs utter obliteration, heh.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2008 15:59:11 GMT
Damn, did I hear a trebuchet review suggestion? That rocks let's do that too.
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Post by septofclansinclair on Oct 2, 2008 16:30:16 GMT
Damn, did I hear a trebuchet review suggestion? That rocks let's do that too. Actually, I know these two teenagers - 17 and 18, I believe - who are building a full working model of a trebuchet. They's got a physics program that has calculated all the variables and even have the wood for it and a counterweight. When it's done, it's going to be able to throw a fridge across town. Craziness. Anyways, it seems that spears are in the lead, with axes and maces close behind. Anyone have any more ideas about other weapons, or how to test them?
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Post by Jeff K. ( Jak) on Oct 3, 2008 0:35:40 GMT
Damn, did I hear a trebuchet review suggestion? That rocks let's do that too. Actually, I know these two teenagers - 17 and 18, I believe - who are building a full working model of a trebuchet. They's got a physics program that has calculated all the variables and even have the wood for it and a counterweight. When it's done, it's going to be able to throw a fridge across town. Craziness. Anyways, it seems that spears are in the lead, with axes and maces close behind. Anyone have any more ideas about other weapons, or how to test them? I was flipping channels once and came across that show about those little people with the farm.....they have a working trebuchet...it tosses the hell out of pumpkins! At the end one of their friends got caught under the counter weight...I didnt see what happened to him but there was blood To see a fridge hurled would be cool indeed! Anyway, enough sidetracking from me.....
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Post by kidcasanova on Oct 3, 2008 11:24:13 GMT
Damn, did I hear a trebuchet review suggestion? That rocks let's do that too. Actually, I know these two teenagers - 17 and 18, I believe - who are building a full working model of a trebuchet. They's got a physics program that has calculated all the variables and even have the wood for it and a counterweight. When it's done, it's going to be able to throw a fridge across town. Craziness. Anyways, it seems that spears are in the lead, with axes and maces close behind. Anyone have any more ideas about other weapons, or how to test them? Bows Dan. Bows. I was thinking typical stats like length, weight, draw weight, draw length and it's configuration (recurve, reflex/deflex, flatbow, composite bow, english longbow, etc.). And then some of it's shooting stats starting with the length and spine of the arrows used (obviously these will match your bow but some people like to be oddballs), arrowhead grain, speed in FPS, how smoothly the bow draws, does it stack? How quickly does the arrow lose speed/height? And of course, the stuff we're used to with our reviews: fit and finish, historical accuracy, structural integrity, and value for money. Handling doesnt really come into play. There are a crapton of good quality traditional (and not so traditional) bows available for under 300 dollars, so finding source material wont be hard to come by. But I dont think any of us will have bow collections quite like ShooterMike's sword collection.....Most archers get one or two bows.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2008 12:14:27 GMT
We also might want to consider training weapons, especially things such as iaito. I for one being a practitioner would like to see people reviewing other training weapons, from the insane to the almost boring. Bows are covered on so many other sites but I agree that all weapons should be equally valid, especially from experience practitioners.
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Post by rammstein on Oct 4, 2008 9:59:18 GMT
I'd be very interested in armour reviews. I would also love to see a test. People always say that Japanese swords are designed for Japanese armour, and European swords are designed for European armour. Which is true, of course, because they were designed to counter it. But what if we, as SBG, purchased a Japanese Katana, a European...umm...sword, and a suit of Japanese Armour and a suit of...umm...European armour, and tested the effectiveness on the opposite style? Ie, thrusting, cutting. Test on it's own and on the other to see just how effective they could have been. Just my thoughts. Thanks, -Tajima That's a neat idea in theory, but it leaves so many variables open to be exploited by anyone who would want to cry that the test was not accurate (and who are we kidding, I'm sure I'd be the first to jump into the fray screaming bloody murder waiving the claymore of travesties over my head). Too many things can't be held stable, so my general opinion is that this test, and most like it, are doomed to failure as far as accuracy is concerned. In short, nothing can really be gained from this.
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Post by Jeff K. ( Jak) on Oct 4, 2008 22:30:44 GMT
I'd be very interested in armour reviews. I would also love to see a test. People always say that Japanese swords are designed for Japanese armour, and European swords are designed for European armour. Which is true, of course, because they were designed to counter it. But what if we, as SBG, purchased a Japanese Katana, a European...umm...sword, and a suit of Japanese Armour and a suit of...umm...European armour, and tested the effectiveness on the opposite style? Ie, thrusting, cutting. Test on it's own and on the other to see just how effective they could have been. Just my thoughts. Thanks, -Tajima That's a neat idea in theory, but it leaves so many variables open to be exploited by anyone who would want to cry that the test was not accurate (and who are we kidding, I'm sure I'd be the first to jump into the fray screaming bloody murder waiving the claymore of travesties over my head). Too many things can't be held stable, so my general opinion is that this test, and most like it, are doomed to failure as far as accuracy is concerned. In short, nothing can really be gained from this. Not if you want to definitivly say that historically one cultures weapons could/ could not defeat the others weapos or armor. It would however show a person what modern replica weapons can do against modern replica armor, which is all I care about.
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Post by Avery on Oct 13, 2008 23:40:31 GMT
Personally, I would enjoy doing reveiws of throwing axes. Showing the weight, handle lenght, and pace stepping is not a small task. also maybe do a finish and fit section. But as the forum is dedicated to swords, it would bae an added bonus for other reveiws, though not necesary. Either way, thanks for the chance to chime in
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2008 0:44:10 GMT
Knife Reviews, types of long knives that nearly make it into a good comparison catagory e.g: Viking Seax (long knife), types of long medieval daggers (thrust tests) etc would be good. A note though I approached Darksword Armoury about doing a custom Viking Seax in a style typical of the "Disscontinued" Last Legend Skofnung Raiding Sax (big mother of a thing) and this was the reply: Oct 13 Thank you for your email, We can make the saex. The cost will be 135$ with scabbard. We are actually working on a Saex right now. It will be ready for the end of November or Early December. It looks almost identical to the one on your image (Skofnung Raiding Sax). You can contact us in early December if interested for a picture. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. Thank you, Eyal Azerad So word is Darksword Armoury is doing a new dagger/knife, if its of a comparible size does it warrant a review. Also take heart guys Darksword might be coming out with some new stuff for Christmas
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2008 2:46:51 GMT
I voted "other" but what I really meant is "all of the above". I don't see any reason not to review any weapons that are contemporary to swords. We have the review sections already in place. "other weapons and armor". I think people know that this is an open enough forum that they can review anything they want. They can even go the the SBG Cafe and review their girlfriend too. I have done reviews for non-sword weapons like my bow, shield and armor.
My issue is that I don't want things to get too cluttered. I don't expect a lot of shield, axe, bow, armor reviews, so I think the "other weapons" section is sufficient.
The "other weapons" section only has THREE PAGES. Lets try to fill that up a bit. Thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2008 2:18:33 GMT
I would REALLY like it if we just supported all of them, and this is why:
1. We will draw more people to the site because we now support the interests of those people.
2. There really are just a FEW boards for other weapons categories so why can't we be one of them.
3. Other weapons help shape history even more than swords, they just simply don't get the credit.
4. Being a historian, I would REALLY like not having to look all over the internet in order to get other people's ideas and information, especially on samples that I can buy and test.
5. To be technical, we have a section forums about,"... Traditional Weapons & Medieval Equipment" and then also a dedicated section about Shields and armour along with a section about other traditional weapons, so it would seem that we have already started to make the transition.
In general, It would be really awesome to have the site be dedicated to more than just swords, even thought they are they coolest things since Cherry pie(yes Cherry IS the best) amongst other stuff(Wink).
P.S. I tried to vote for them all but only could do bows and spears/pole arms.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2008 1:46:48 GMT
How about weapons like sai, kama, katar and other weapons that isn't as popular as axes and swords? I for one would think more exotic-weapon reviews to be awesome. But then again, do my vote count? I've been gone from the forum for 6 months or something...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2008 10:49:26 GMT
I have an interest in viking swords and Katana,s well all swords in general. There is one I would like to now more about if any one owns one or could do a review on it for me.It is called the swedish viking sword I found it at Cult of Athena, what concerns me is that the pommel is threaded and not peened because of the detail but are they just as strong and is it tradishenal.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2008 11:51:33 GMT
Hi scott, the threaded tang and pommel is not traditional for a viking style sword but it can indeed be as strong as necessary for a sword. The quality of windlass blades construction in terms of durability is usually quite good (as in it won't fall apart, but may rattle) but others with more experience with their swords may chime in too. A traditional early viking sword style pommel was in two pieces, the first piece peened to the tang and then the second piece riveted to the first. www.valhs.org/history/articles/manufacturing/text/viking_sword.htmwww.albion-swords.com/articles/husbyborg.htm
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2008 4:25:57 GMT
I voted other, since I would like to see reviews on armor and shields as well. But ultimately, reviews on all sorts of medieval weapons would interest me. Crossbows anyone?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2008 3:08:07 GMT
I voted for bows, traditional ones. Sword and bow are always together, I'd say, almost in every ancient culture.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2008 3:59:46 GMT
I would definitely like to see more reviews of either production or homemade maces. These are particularly devastating weapons which do not need sharpening, were easily made, required less training that a sword and, just to remind you, probably sent more knights on the battlefield to the afterlife than swords did. The mace was the first real answer to armor.
Another thing....they *have* to be easy to make at home with a decent welding kit.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2008 22:46:23 GMT
Ooh, bows would be cool.
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