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Post by septofclansinclair on Sept 29, 2008 16:12:01 GMT
As we all know, historically there were many, many more weapons than swords used in our history. Some of them (like the spear) were prolific since the dawn of time until, well, it's still being used in some places.
I know that it's called the "Sword" Buyer's Guide, but this is just for gathering information about what other kinds of weapons that you'd like to see reviewed. Nothing is being promised, obviously, this is just testing the waters.
I listed the following categories:
1. Spears/Polearms
2. Axes
3. Maces/Warhammers (or clubs, too, I suppose)
4. Bows
5. Other (please specify - I'm not going to embarrass myself by demonstrating my lack of knowledge of traditional Chinese, Japanese or even European non-sword weaponry)
6. Stick to swords (maybe we should just keep on keepin' on? You decide).
Regards,
Daniel
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2008 19:35:27 GMT
I tried to vote for all of them but I couldn't, a specific forum for other weapons reviews, perhaps as a subforum in the "other traditional weapons" forum would be perfect.
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Post by YlliwCir on Sept 29, 2008 19:59:37 GMT
Don't we already have that under the review section "Other Weapons and Armor"?
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Post by kidcasanova on Sept 29, 2008 20:34:03 GMT
I voted for bows. It's an interest of mine that rivals my love of swords, and I know a fair bit about them. I've got a few sub-300 bows I could review, I s'pose. Some warhammers and axes would be neat, too. But I'm mostly interested in swords and bows.
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Post by septofclansinclair on Sept 29, 2008 20:38:51 GMT
Don't we already have that under the review section "Other Weapons and Armor"? We do have that section, but it is not used much. Hence the poll - would more people be interested in seeing reviews of that ilk?
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Post by tajima on Sept 29, 2008 22:47:31 GMT
All of them?
I would post a review of the Hanwei Kama *Lightbulb!* and I would love to see some of the Polearms reviewed. And maces. And axes.
All of it should be reviewed, in my opinion! We should be Assorted Bladed and Blunt Edged Weapon Buyer's Guide! Or ABBEWBG for short. Or for long. Hmm.
Thanks, -Tajima
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Post by Jeff K. ( Jak) on Sept 30, 2008 0:30:38 GMT
Yeah, I'd like to see reviews of all those catagories as well. Axes and pole arms in particular. Armor would be good to since most pieces cost $400 and under...until you start getting into the higher grade stuff. Im not sure how many others here collect armor (besides helms) apart from myself though.... I know Ive ordered a few things...crappy gauntlets that were a TOTAL waste of money, and a great helm that although cool looking was just too enormous to be practical for me.....that I would like to have been able to discuss with someone prior to buying.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2008 0:57:14 GMT
I personally don't have much interest in other traditional weapons except for swords. I haven't seen a Spear, Pole arm, Mace, or bow that really knocked my socks off like swords do.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2008 10:16:27 GMT
Don't we already have that under the review section "Other Weapons and Armor"? We do have that section, but it is not used much. ... Which is exactly the answer: stick to swords. It's a sword forum.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2008 17:02:02 GMT
We do have that section, but it is not used much. ... Which is exactly the answer: stick to swords. It's a sword forum. Why limit ourselves? That seems rather narrow-minded.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2008 18:01:17 GMT
Which is exactly the answer: stick to swords. It's a sword forum. Why limit ourselves? That seems rather narrow-minded. I agree. We, unlike EVERY OTHER sword forum also have a gun section, so why not be a MAINLY SWORDS forum, but include other weapons as well?
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Post by ShooterMike on Sept 30, 2008 21:21:10 GMT
I would consider doing reviews of other weapons. I have a collection of medieval axes from various manufacturers, for instance. However, we have a more or less established protocol for sword reviews. Would we need at least some guidelines for other weapons? Some sort of testing that would be meaningful?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2008 23:23:04 GMT
Excellent. Let's begin listing some proper guidelines on what should be expected during a review.
Target materials? Testing parameters? Yadda yadda yadda.
The best way, IMHO, to set up the forum itself would be to have different subforums within the "Other weapons and armor" reviews forum, like how the Classifieds it set up.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2008 23:47:07 GMT
I am almost certainly advertising my ignorance, but how much is there really to review as far as blunt impact weapons goes? Perhaps balance and fittings/finish - and the latter is much less of a factor than for swords/other weapons? Given the particular nature of those weapons, I seriously doubt that durability is going to be much of a review factor (they're not exactly fragile weapons) and I can't think of anything else I'd look for in a blunt weapon. Not to knock them as effective killing tools, but it doesn't seem like the level of craftsmanship required is enough to warrant proper reviews.
To a lesser degree, this kind of applies to axes as well (again, from an uninformed perspective).
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Post by Jeff K. ( Jak) on Oct 1, 2008 0:25:47 GMT
I am almost certainly advertising my ignorance, but how much is there really to review as far as blunt impact weapons goes? Perhaps balance and fittings/finish - and the latter is much less of a factor than for swords/other weapons? Given the particular nature of those weapons, I seriously doubt that durability is going to be much of a review factor (they're not exactly fragile weapons) and I can't think of anything else I'd look for in a blunt weapon. Not to knock them as effective killing tools, but it doesn't seem like the level of craftsmanship required is enough to warrant proper reviews. To a lesser degree, this kind of applies to axes as well (again, from an uninformed perspective). There are varying degrees of quality when it come to blunt impact weapons as well. Ive handled some axes that were very cheaply put together. I broke the origional haft on my Hanwei hero axe because it was not the best quality wood. I have since replaced it with a hickory handle but the eye where you fit the handle to the head is rather small thus potentially weaker. Now I have seen axes on other sites....a couple Ukranian sites that appear to have axe hafts every bit as thick as a modern logging axe. Maces follow suit as well.....Ive seen maces with welded on flanges and ones where the flanges are held on by little wee screws.... Since we have so many different forums here already....firearms, WMA, JSA, History, ......a review section for these types of weapons would not be out of place. I would think you could lump Pole arms, axes, maces into one catagory and prgectile weapons.... bows, crossbows.....trebuchets, whatever, into another to save clutter... and of course an armor section for me ;D..in fact I just ordered cuisses and greaves from Merc Tailor that Id be happy to review...if I had a proper sub forum for it.... ;D Just my 2 cents, but I think it would help us be a more well rounded forum to include other weapons. Only interested in swords? Just stick to those catagories...its not like you'd have to wade through review after review of axes and such if we had a second or even third catagory.
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Post by tajima on Oct 1, 2008 0:43:43 GMT
I'd be very interested in armour reviews. I would also love to see a test. People always say that Japanese swords are designed for Japanese armour, and European swords are designed for European armour. Which is true, of course, because they were designed to counter it.
But what if we, as SBG, purchased a Japanese Katana, a European...umm...sword, and a suit of Japanese Armour and a suit of...umm...European armour, and tested the effectiveness on the opposite style? Ie, thrusting, cutting. Test on it's own and on the other to see just how effective they could have been.
Just my thoughts.
Thanks, -Tajima
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Post by Jeff K. ( Jak) on Oct 1, 2008 0:49:52 GMT
I'd be very interested in armour reviews. I would also love to see a test. People always say that Japanese swords are designed for Japanese armour, and European swords are designed for European armour. Which is true, of course, because they were designed to counter it. But what if we, as SBG, purchased a Japanese Katana, a European...umm...sword, and a suit of Japanese Armour and a suit of...umm...European armour, and tested the effectiveness on the opposite style? Ie, thrusting, cutting. Test on it's own and on the other to see just how effective they could have been. Just my thoughts. Thanks, -Tajima That would be cool indeed. Though nobody's gonna try poking my armor....unless they wanna get poked back ;D
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2008 3:18:57 GMT
I would be delighted if reviews for non-sword weapons had more space and credits on this site. I think the site sould still focus on swords, but giving review points for good reviews for daggers, axes, maces, etc could be an example of encouraging reviews for them.
Besides, it would be useful for those who want to buy some of these weapons and avoid the trouble and of buying a poorly made product. Right now we are doing the same thing with swords, why not do it with non-sword weapons ?
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Post by wiwingti on Oct 1, 2008 8:08:03 GMT
others (all of them for me)
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Post by septofclansinclair on Oct 1, 2008 16:45:37 GMT
Good comments, all. I think that the standard review categories could apply, we'd just have to redefine some of the meanings (ie. a good handling mace would not handle the same as a good handling sword).
Keep going, this is great stuff. I am compiling notes. Actual notes, people, believe it or not.
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