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Post by sparcher on Mar 23, 2022 20:29:13 GMT
Hello. I recently came across this Solingen sword and could use some help identifying it, when it was used and what is was used for. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Post by sparcher on Mar 23, 2022 20:35:44 GMT
Here are a few of the pictures.
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Post by sparcher on Mar 26, 2022 20:42:11 GMT
Another picture of the design. Attachments:
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Post by jimmythedonut on Mar 27, 2022 5:48:35 GMT
I will be honest this is one of the most confusing swords I have seen. The guard appears to be of the Anglo 1822 design but without the British design in the center, but the grip and pommel cap are more in the French style. Most of the blade etching appears to be stock German-style etching but if that cross is correct that would make this Swiss?
I have never seen anything like this before and Griffwaffen (Book on Swiss swords) has a few extra versions in it of private purchase French or British style swords but nothing that matches this exactly.
If anyone knows more please let me know or if you are interested in selling this I would maybe take it off your hands if I can get confirmation that this is Swiss.
Can you post stats on length and weight and width? It appears to be a narrow gala sword or levee dress sword but again, I am really not sure.
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Post by pellius on Mar 27, 2022 6:50:26 GMT
British style gothic guard, French grip and pommel, obliterated “decommissioned” crest.. I would’ve guessed one of the South American nations. Purely a guess, though.
I couldn’t find the Swiss cross. Which photo?
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Post by snubnoze on Mar 27, 2022 17:30:54 GMT
I'd guess something South American as well given the decommission but not sure. Perhaps it's a composite of a few swords.
Doesn't look like a Swiss blade. Also has three crowns, maybe Swedish? The grip kind of looks Swedish too. Almost like they stuck a different guard on a Swedish sword.
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Post by jimmythedonut on Mar 27, 2022 18:54:37 GMT
British style gothic guard, French grip and pommel, obliterated “decommissioned” crest.. I would’ve guessed one of the South American nations. Purely a guess, though. I couldn’t find the Swiss cross. Which photo? On the last photo they attached, there's what looks like a Swiss cross bordered by people on either side. It's nice and thick, right in the center of the photo
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Post by pellius on Mar 27, 2022 20:41:07 GMT
British style gothic guard, French grip and pommel, obliterated “decommissioned” crest.. I would’ve guessed one of the South American nations. Purely a guess, though. I couldn’t find the Swiss cross. Which photo? On the last photo they attached, there's what looks like a Swiss cross bordered by people on either side. It's nice and thick, right in the center of the photo Ah! Good eye. Did Switzerland mix crowns and crosses? I kinda thought the cross was adopted as a symbol that the constitutional confederation had explicitly superseded the system of nobility. Honestly, I have no idea where I got that idea, though. Again, I’m really looking forward to your article on the subject!
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Post by jimmythedonut on Mar 29, 2022 5:55:36 GMT
Now that I look at it more I am even more confused. Re-read Pino's article on the Argentine and Chilean swords and the defaced crests is not unlike those, alongside one of them being based on the gothic hilt (I forget which). The curve of the grip and the pommel cap is not unlike some Saxon officer's swords per google.
As of now this appears to my eyes to be the ultimate frankensword mystery, trying to find "X country + cross on sword" has been a fruitless search as well. I would still maintain it is a mid-late 19th or early 20th century with that blade shape and etching but beyond that I really have absolutely no idea as of now, I apologize.
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Post by sparcher on May 7, 2022 22:03:30 GMT
Sorry I haven’t replied in a while. I really appreciate you taking the time to help me out. Thank you!
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Post by treeslicer on May 10, 2022 5:16:58 GMT
Could this possibly be a very early item manufactured circa 1850's by Krone & Schwert, a Solingen cutlery firm later well known for their "3 Crown" straight razors? I'm not finding a direct link here yet, but possibly someone else could.
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