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Post by Stef on Mar 1, 2022 20:28:14 GMT
that looks pretty bad they did a bad job, do you have pictures of the after with the new koshirae ?
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Post by AdamNovath on Mar 2, 2022 15:41:23 GMT
that looks pretty bad they did a bad job, do you have pictures of the after with the new koshirae ? Back to the same old trash talk huh?
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Post by nddave on Mar 5, 2022 10:29:07 GMT
Looks good and it appears you also used hishigami and slimed the tsuka core down. Like the Bamboo koshirae too.
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Post by AdamNovath on Mar 5, 2022 13:24:01 GMT
Looks good and it appears you also used hishigami and slimed the tsuka core down. Like the Bamboo koshirae too. Thank you! Yes I use hishigami on most of my tsukamaki (some styles of tsukamaki don't use hishigami) and I even offer 2 different thickness hishigami so that way if the user prefers a thicker or thinner tsuka it can be sort of fine tuned to the user. This one has thick hishigami. I didn't slim the core on this one although I have slimmed cores down before.
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Post by ggolden219 on Mar 6, 2022 20:40:17 GMT
Have you considered building up certain areas on the tsuka, so that the transitions from the fuchikashira are better? I know it's more work, but it would look a lot better. The color is nice.
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Post by phoule on Mar 6, 2022 20:43:42 GMT
Looks horrible, as per usual... I'd be pretty pissed if I received a tsuka like this.
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Post by AdamNovath on Mar 6, 2022 21:21:35 GMT
Have you considered building up certain areas on the tsuka, so that the transitions from the fuchikashira are better? I know it's more work, but it would look a lot better. The color is nice. I've considered it but haven't found anything suitable yet.
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Post by AdamNovath on Mar 6, 2022 21:22:32 GMT
Looks horrible, as per usual... I'd be pretty pissed if I received a tsuka like this. Good to know, now are you going to make any actual helpful comments or just keep insulting my work?
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Post by ggolden219 on Mar 6, 2022 21:39:20 GMT
Looks horrible, as per usual... I'd be pretty pissed if I received a tsuka like this. Wait - someone is paying for this? I thought this was someone learning and practicing. I was eventually going to post my first attempts at tsukamaki for advice, and I thought I was in the right place.
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Post by phoule on Mar 6, 2022 22:46:20 GMT
Looks horrible, as per usual... I'd be pretty pissed if I received a tsuka like this. Good to know, now are you going to make any actual helpful comments or just keep insulting my work? I know you think your work is awesome, I'm not gonna waste my time...
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Post by AdamNovath on Mar 6, 2022 22:56:08 GMT
Good to know, now are you going to make any actual helpful comments or just keep insulting my work? I know you think your work is awesome, I'm not gonna waste my time... Than don't waste my time with your insults.
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Post by phoule on Mar 6, 2022 23:00:20 GMT
I know you think your work is awesome, I'm not gonna waste my time... Than don't waste my time with your insults. Don't hurt my eyes with your "work"...
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Post by AdamNovath on Mar 6, 2022 23:17:55 GMT
Than don't waste my time with your insults. Don't hurt my eyes with your "work"... Lol you really don't have a life outside of trying to insult people do you? You claim you don't want to waste your time because you don't think I won't listen yet here you still are. If you don't want to see my work than don't go to such lengths to look for it.
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Post by tera on Mar 6, 2022 23:24:02 GMT
Gentlemen,
Please remember Rule #4 from our community guidelines. Treat each other with respect.
If you have constructive criticism to share, please do so respectfully, even if it is provided via PM.
Let's return to treating each other as members of the same community, united by shared interests. Further posts in violation of the rules may result in formal actions.
Also, should someone make a poor life choice and post provocatively, please report their post instead of responding in kind, as per our forum rules.
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Post by karl j on Mar 6, 2022 23:34:44 GMT
Helpful comments...
1. Buttressing the hishigame will go a long way to keeping the diamonds even and in line with each other. Without the buttress they will shift and the wrap is not secure. 2. Wood veneer or layered rice paper is typically used to build up the sides of the tsuka and provide the buttress on tsuka that employ a full wrap. Paneled tsuka are recessed where the samegawa panel are, however most often there is still build up on the sides for shaping. 3. The foundation of that tsuka is very poor, which impacts the fit of the fuchi and kashira. Structurally a new tsuka would be much better. 4. Hishigame, are typically made for each individual tsukamaki. 5. Proper constant tension in the ito when wrapping also helps with keeping the diamonds more uniform.
Antique / used actual Japanese made tsuka are easily sourced on ebay and other sites, it would behoove you to study proper made tsuka as much as you can.
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Post by tera on Mar 7, 2022 0:40:13 GMT
Thank you, Karl, I honestly didn't know a lot of that myself. That has help people like me be more informed about tsuka construction and why good tsukamaki services are not cheap.
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Post by karl j on Mar 7, 2022 0:52:38 GMT
Thank you, Karl, I honestly didn't know a lot of that myself. That has help people like me be more informed about tsuka construction and why good tsukamaki services are not cheap. No problem. Tsuka are incredibly complex, there's a reason I just polish ...
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Post by Cottontail Customs on Mar 7, 2022 1:16:56 GMT
Have you considered building up certain areas on the tsuka, so that the transitions from the fuchikashira are better? I know it's more work, but it would look a lot better. The color is nice. I've considered it but haven't found anything suitable yet. Look up kyogi or paper wood, it's very thin, planed sheets of wood. cut strips and use as a shim to build up the profile of the ha and mune on the tsuka shitaji, so you can have the ito come flush to the rims of the fuchigashira. I also use this to shim the saya koiguchi if the fit is loose. very handy and fairly inexpensive
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Post by ggolden219 on Mar 7, 2022 1:53:07 GMT
I've considered it but haven't found anything suitable yet. Look up kyogi or paper wood, it's very thin, planed sheets of wood. cut strips and use as a shim to build up the profile of the ha and mune on the tsuka shitaji, so you can have the ito come flush to the rims of the fuchigashira. I also use this to shim the saya koiguchi if the fit is loose. very handy and fairly inexpensive This seems like an easier, less expensive technique than building a tsuka core from scratch. I will look into this myself.
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Post by Cottontail Customs on Mar 7, 2022 3:03:56 GMT
Look up kyogi or paper wood, it's very thin, planed sheets of wood. cut strips and use as a shim to build up the profile of the ha and mune on the tsuka shitaji, so you can have the ito come flush to the rims of the fuchigashira. I also use this to shim the saya koiguchi if the fit is loose. very handy and fairly inexpensive This seems like an easier, less expensive technique than building a tsuka core from scratch. I will look into this myself. shimming with kyogi is only to get the last bit of the way there, not a sub for a well made and shaped tsuka core. there is only so much you can fix with shimming.
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