tera
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Post by tera on Dec 15, 2021 18:57:28 GMT
Personal opinions vary, but I would recomend a light, non-sharp to begin your training. There is reduced risk of injury and lighter weight means more repetitions before burnout so more opportunity to practice on form. This is why many in JSA start with bokken.
Later, you may choose to buy a deliberately heavier non-sharp to build muscle and increase speed with real steel. This is why many in JSA end up with a suburito.
Ultimately, as long as you are safe and enjoy your purchase, there isn't a wrong answer.
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Post by tera on Dec 15, 2021 20:32:46 GMT
I think there are training equivalents for non-Japanese swords, though that model you have chosen does look affordable and KoA has a good reputation as a vendor, even after the recent change of ownership.
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Post by Adventurer'sBlade on Dec 15, 2021 21:16:27 GMT
I would suggest one of the steel trainers for sale by Purpleheart Armory instead, like this one: www.woodenswords.com/Steel_Tech_Feder_with_Disc_Pommel_p/vb.feder.tech.disc.htmThey are actually made with training in mind and cost about the same. There’s also an HMB/Buhurt sword there that weighs about 4 lbs and would most likely hold up better than a Deepeeka for pell work. Nothing wrong with starting with a synthetic waster either, you will probably want one for sparring anyways if you have a partner. |
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Post by mysticalward on Dec 15, 2021 23:31:27 GMT
I just went through all of these debates starting HEMA. So I ended up getting a couple of trainers for certain situations. I got the standard regenyei feder for sparring and pell work, then I ended up getting the pentti longsword for indoor form work. I went back and forth on which ones to get and after tons of research and suggestions by coaches and clubs I just went with both. Just my experience.
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Post by mysticalward on Dec 16, 2021 0:04:08 GMT
I wasn't a fan of the short trainers. It made point alignment and tracking unnecessarily difficult. which is why I went synthetic. I tried a dowel, broomstick, and even a towel. Although they will technically work having something to check edge alignment and indexing is a huge help. Plus handwork, thumbing and grip alignment without the guard can be tricky. especially depending on which style you are studying.
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Post by mysticalward on Dec 16, 2021 0:11:33 GMT
the Kingston arms federschwert? Just a warning those are not well loved in sparring and have been known to not have the best balance or handling.
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Post by Adventurer'sBlade on Dec 16, 2021 0:17:41 GMT
I just went through all of these debates starting HEMA. So I ended up getting a couple of trainers for certain situations. I got the standard regenyei feder for sparring and pell work, then I ended up getting the pentti longsword for indoor form work. I went back and forth on which ones to get and after tons of research and suggestions by coaches and clubs I just went with both. Just my experience. Hi! Thanks for the insights. I was considering getting an "indoor" sword (just the handle), especially since I live in Rainy McRainville. Any experience with/suggestions concerning those things? They seem really strange. Also, Edelson suggests using just a wooden dowel for anything that you don't necessarily need a sword for. I like the idea, and am wondering if anybody has any experience with that to share. I do find it extremely useful to have a waster with a distinct edge, flat, and a handle that isn’t round if you actually want to learn to cut. A stick can work for drilling strikes and footwork but it just isn’t the same. And having a guard on the sword changes how it feels, dramatically. Train too much with a guardless waster and you just might bonk yourself on the back of the head when you pick up a sword with a wide cross guard. |
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Post by mysticalward on Dec 16, 2021 0:21:37 GMT
that looks like it wouldnt be that bad. Again that depends on which style you plan on training in.
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