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Post by nddave on Sept 6, 2022 2:07:46 GMT
Nice glad it came safe and sound and on time! Not sure what you mean about the edge? Are you talking about the fullers not being fully flush to the center of the blade? If so the fullering not being flush is more or less cosmetic and wont affect the handling or durability of the sword.The rust shouldn't be a big issue a little 1500 or 1000 grit wet dry paper with a little oil will clean those up fast. Looks good in the pics, have you handled it much yet, what's your thoughts on its feel? More than on time, ordered in the evening. waited a day, arrived the morning after. But waited for a special day to get my hands on it. I just swung abit outside. Nice stabs but the edge aligement is ass, my second swing combo tended to end with the flat side.
Im more worried with the cleaning\oiling I did, hopefully I can save the chamois. Got very oily and worried just cleaning with soap will leave residue when I wipe next.
and my edge, I mean it isin't centered, when seem from the front (toward the edge) it's not centered, whoever shapened it seemed to grind one side much more than the other of one edge.
Yea if anything put your chamois in a ziplock and save it for sword wipe downs since it's got enough oil on it to be used a few times. Ok I understand what you mean now. Yea seems a fault of whoever sharpened it. It shouldn't effect the edge that much but if it is just take a stone or some paper and even it out. If you run your finger over the opposite side of the over grind and feel a bur then they over sharpened the overly grinded side and it will effect the edge cutting so it will have to be evened out.
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Post by theonebastardsword on Sept 6, 2022 2:08:58 GMT
More than on time, ordered in the evening. waited a day, arrived the morning after. But waited for a special day to get my hands on it. I just swung abit outside. Nice stabs but the edge aligement is ass, my second swing combo tended to end with the flat side.
Im more worried with the cleaning\oiling I did, hopefully I can save the chamois. Got very oily and worried just cleaning with soap will leave residue when I wipe next.
and my edge, I mean it isin't centered, when seem from the front (toward the edge) it's not centered, whoever shapened it seemed to grind one side much more than the other of one edge.
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Post by nddave on Sept 6, 2022 2:15:20 GMT
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Post by theonebastardsword on Sept 6, 2022 2:29:29 GMT
More than on time, ordered in the evening. waited a day, arrived the morning after. But waited for a special day to get my hands on it. I just swung abit outside. Nice stabs but the edge aligement is ass, my second swing combo tended to end with the flat side.
Im more worried with the cleaning\oiling I did, hopefully I can save the chamois. Got very oily and worried just cleaning with soap will leave residue when I wipe next.
and my edge, I mean it isin't centered, when seem from the front (toward the edge) it's not centered, whoever shapened it seemed to grind one side much more than the other of one edge.
Yea if anything put your chamois in a ziplock and save it for sword wipe downs since it's got enough oil on it to be used a few times. Ok I understand what you mean now. Yea seems a fault of whoever sharpened it. It shouldn't effect the edge that much but if it is just take a stone or some paper and even it out. If you run your finger over the opposite side of the over grind and feel a bur then they over sharpened the overly grinded side and it will effect the edge cutting so it will have to be evened out. Ah I already tried washing it, but I could have done it. Darn, il post a pic later, but if the left was 1/4 and the centered blade was 2/4. the current blade is like 3/4. and a burr? Also is there a way to be sure I didin't just remove all the oil with one-ish pass of the dry cloth after the oiling one? I will redo a clean and oiling tommorow after some more practice swings (any issue with merely swinging into the void?) with the cleaned or a new leather chamois (at dollar store) using a set of absorbant wipes to oil. If it get too hard to get right with oil, mabye some wax or renaissance wax could do it better.
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Post by nddave on Sept 6, 2022 2:38:45 GMT
Oh well if anything they're just Chamois, just toss it and get a new one lol. A burr happens basically when one side of the edge is sharpened more than the other and the sharpened metal edge overlaps the unsharpened metal edge. But yea a pic of the issue would definitely help. If the edge is not burred then it should be fine.
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Post by theonebastardsword on Sept 6, 2022 2:41:15 GMT
Oh well if anything they're just Chamois, just toss it and get a new one lol. A bur happens basically when one side of the edge is sharpened more than the other and the sharpened metal edge overlaps the unsharpened metal edge. But yea a pic of the issue would definitely help. If the edge is not bured then it should be fine. Il get a picture. one tommorow once we get better lighthing. Any tips on making sure I oiled right? and is the cross/pommel as rust prone as how the blade is? and while il get more experience on it tommorow, the blade lenght felt right and the slight heft make it feel strong.
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Post by nddave on Sept 6, 2022 2:45:55 GMT
Oh well if anything they're just Chamois, just toss it and get a new one lol. A bur happens basically when one side of the edge is sharpened more than the other and the sharpened metal edge overlaps the unsharpened metal edge. But yea a pic of the issue would definitely help. If the edge is not bured then it should be fine. Il get a picture. one tommorow once we get better lighthing. Any tips on making sure I oiled right? and is the cross/pommel as rust prone as how the blade is? Ok sounds good. Regarding oiling rule of thumb is less oil is better than too much oil. Basically when you oil the blade it shouldn't have any excess oil on the blade and should be wiped cleanly. Worse case scenario is there's too much oil which can absorb into the leather scabbard which isn't really good for the scabbard leather. This is why I prefer to use metal polish. I actually have another video showing my Cleaning and Polishing methods if you'd like to check it out,
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Post by theonebastardsword on Sept 6, 2022 2:47:10 GMT
Il get a picture. one tommorow once we get better lighthing. Any tips on making sure I oiled right? and is the cross/pommel as rust prone as how the blade is? Ok sounds good. Regarding oiling rule of thumb is less oil is better than too much oil. Basically when you oil the blade it shouldn't have any excess oil on the blade and should be wiped cleanly. Worse case scenario is there's too much oil which can absorb into the leather scabbard which isn't really good for the scabbard leather. This is why I prefer to use metal polish. I actually have another video showing my Cleaning and Polishing methods if you'd like to check it out, I got some mothers mag and alluminium polish, but isin't that an abrassive to make polished finnishes? (was thinking of taking a satine or dull finnish than this mirror)
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Post by nddave on Sept 6, 2022 2:54:13 GMT
Ok sounds good. Regarding oiling rule of thumb is less oil is better than too much oil. Basically when you oil the blade it shouldn't have any excess oil on the blade and should be wiped cleanly. Worse case scenario is there's too much oil which can absorb into the leather scabbard which isn't really good for the scabbard leather. This is why I prefer to use metal polish. I actually have another video showing my Cleaning and Polishing methods if you'd like to check it out, I got some mothers mag and alluminium polish, but isin't that an abrassive to make polished finnishes? (was thinking of taking a satine or dull finnish than this mirror) Mother's Mag should be fine to use. Not sure about the aluminum polish, think I read somewhere that it isn't good for carbon steel. Either one shouldn't really change polish of the blade on its own, you'll need to use stones or wet dry paper to get the finish down. But be aware it's a process to get it blended even and flush so plan on giving some time to the project if you do want to bring the polish down.
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Post by theonebastardsword on Sept 6, 2022 2:57:02 GMT
I got some mothers mag and alluminium polish, but isin't that an abrassive to make polished finnishes? (was thinking of taking a satine or dull finnish than this mirror) Mother's Mag should be fine to use. Not sure about the aluminum polish, think I read somewhere that it isn't good for carbon steel. Either one shouldn't really change polish of the blade on its own, you'll need to use stones or wet dry paper to get the finish down. But be aware it's a process to get it blended even and flush so plan on giving some time to the project if you do want to bring the polish down. Darn, was suggested that one in other places, tho if it's not to bring down the polish to a satin, i can use it to preserve the blade? (don't it scrap away some metal versus a clean, oil and wiping?) still hoping my last wiping didin't just take away all the oil I put on.
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Post by nddave on Sept 6, 2022 3:30:57 GMT
Mother's Mag should be fine to use. Not sure about the aluminum polish, think I read somewhere that it isn't good for carbon steel. Either one shouldn't really change polish of the blade on its own, you'll need to use stones or wet dry paper to get the finish down. But be aware it's a process to get it blended even and flush so plan on giving some time to the project if you do want to bring the polish down. Darn, was suggested that one in other places, tho if it's not to bring down the polish to a satin, i can use it to preserve the blade? (don't it scrap away some metal versus a clean, oil and wiping?) still hoping my last wiping didin't just take away all the oil I put on. Yea the abrasiveness of the polish will be enough to clean spots and light rust but not enough to change the polish. Personally I prefer to use polishes over oil to preserve my swords. Either or its cleaned and should be fine unless you're in a real humid environment or have the blade exposed to moisture.
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Post by theonebastardsword on Sept 6, 2022 3:32:43 GMT
Darn, was suggested that one in other places, tho if it's not to bring down the polish to a satin, i can use it to preserve the blade? (don't it scrap away some metal versus a clean, oil and wiping?) still hoping my last wiping didin't just take away all the oil I put on. Yea the abrasiveness of the polish will be enough to clean spots and light rust but not enough to change the polish. Personally I prefer to use polishes over oil to preserve my swords. Either or its cleaned and should be fine unless you're in a real humid environment or have the blade exposed to moisture. Your opinion on waxes like renaissance wax? Soo the polishes are just enough to remove dirt and light rust but not scratch the metal itself?
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Post by nddave on Sept 6, 2022 3:42:26 GMT
Yea the abrasiveness of the polish will be enough to clean spots and light rust but not enough to change the polish. Personally I prefer to use polishes over oil to preserve my swords. Either or its cleaned and should be fine unless you're in a real humid environment or have the blade exposed to moisture. Your opinion on waxes like renaissance wax? Soo the polishes are just enough to remove dirt and light rust but not scratch the metal itself? Never used them so don't really have an opinion on them. Those that do think highly of them and they seem to be the optimal choice for swords that will be displayed and not handled for extended amounts of time, for example museum and display swords. Pretty much they'll buff out light scratches and stains too but not enough to eliminate deep scratches or change the polish for example a mirror to satin.
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Post by theonebastardsword on Sept 6, 2022 3:49:57 GMT
Your opinion on waxes like renaissance wax? Soo the polishes are just enough to remove dirt and light rust but not scratch the metal itself? Never used them so don't really have an opinion on them. Those that do think highly of them and they seem to be the optimal choice for swords that will be displayed and not handled for extended amounts of time, for example museum and display swords. Pretty much they'll buff out light scratches and stains too but not enough to eliminate deep scratches or change the polish for example a mirror to satin. Ah, the sword will see use (as in swinging in the air or light cutting) but I can get a pot of wax on hand when I plan to not use it for a while. Prefer to prevent rust than having to remove it but some light buffing would be neat to get any bits I missed of any rust alway present if I find much.
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Post by theonebastardsword on Sept 6, 2022 17:36:04 GMT
Swung the sword some more, being a gamer, my upper body strenght isin't really there for proper single hand swings but im doing two handed right.
I didin't seem to see any burrs on my blade, but trying the paper sheet test, it was a abymyssal failure, barely can even dent it. Likewize, the scabbard seem to leave white powder on the blade? Found two tiny rust spots, but don't think i can use a green pad to clean it out? (scratches) tho weirdly, I noticed a bunch of orange drops on the blade side, pollen on the oil or rust in the worst case? (it can't rust that fast right?)
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Post by nddave on Sept 6, 2022 18:16:04 GMT
Swung the sword some more, being a gamer, my upper body strenght isin't really there for proper single hand swings but im doing two handed right. I didin't seem to see any burrs on my blade, but trying the paper sheet test, it was a abymyssal failure, barely can even dent it. Likewize, the scabbard seem to leave white powder on the blade? Found two tiny rust spots, but don't think i can use a green pad to clean it out? (scratches) tho weirdly, I noticed a bunch of orange drops on the blade side, pollen on the oil or rust in the worst case? (it can't rust that fast right?) Well it's technically a two handed sword so I wouldn't worry about it too much. Yea seem it got an uneven sharpening job or just a general poor one so touching up will be necessary. The white powder is something Windlass puts in the scabbards to help with potential moisture. It's kinda obnoxious but harmless to the blade. Try to wipe the drops off with a clean towel if they don't come off its rust if they do then it was probably just something in the scabbard potentially leather dust.
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Post by theonebastardsword on Sept 6, 2022 18:25:01 GMT
Swung the sword some more, being a gamer, my upper body strenght isin't really there for proper single hand swings but im doing two handed right. I didin't seem to see any burrs on my blade, but trying the paper sheet test, it was a abymyssal failure, barely can even dent it. Likewize, the scabbard seem to leave white powder on the blade? Found two tiny rust spots, but don't think i can use a green pad to clean it out? (scratches) tho weirdly, I noticed a bunch of orange drops on the blade side, pollen on the oil or rust in the worst case? (it can't rust that fast right?) Well it's technically a two handed sword so I wouldn't worry about it too much. Yea seem it got an uneven sharpening job or just a general poor one so touching up will be necessary. The white powder is something Windlass puts in the scabbards to help with potential moisture. It's kinda obnoxious but harmless to the blade. Try to wipe the drops off with a clean towel if they don't come off its rust if they do then it was probably just something in the scabbard potentially leather dust. It probably was leather dust, once I wiped I found no traces of it. I used just absorbant towel this time since my chamois isin't dry yet. Also did the pommel and scabbard. I noticed a few tiny spots on one side of the blade. More confident in my oiling this time. Im not too sure if im able to do a proper sharpening, don't have the tools yet either, specially on such an askew? Yet yesterday, the blade did damage my chamois slightly where it accidently rubbed across the blade. and is it okay to clean my blade while it's lying on it's side (held on two points)? Most vids I see clean while holding the sword and wash both side of the edge at once. for that spot of light rust, I rub the polish with the sponge and buff away with the chamois or absorbant wipe?
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Post by nddave on Sept 6, 2022 18:30:18 GMT
Well it's technically a two handed sword so I wouldn't worry about it too much. Yea seem it got an uneven sharpening job or just a general poor one so touching up will be necessary. The white powder is something Windlass puts in the scabbards to help with potential moisture. It's kinda obnoxious but harmless to the blade. Try to wipe the drops off with a clean towel if they don't come off its rust if they do then it was probably just something in the scabbard potentially leather dust. It probably was leather dust, once I wiped I found no traces of it. I used just absorbant towel this time since my chamois isin't dry yet. Also did the pommel and scabbard. I noticed a few tiny spots on one side of the blade. More confident in my oiling this time. Im not too sure if im able to do a proper sharpening, don't have the tools yet either, specially on such an askew? Yet yesterday, the blade did damage my chamois slightly where it accidently rubbed across the blade. and is it okay to clean my blade while it's lying on it's side (held on two points)? Most vids I see clean while holding the sword and wash both side of the edge at once. for that spot of light rust, I rub the polish with the sponge and buff away with the chamois or absorbant wipe? Yea it's fine to clean each side individually, that's what I do. Actually any advice I'd give and write is clearly shown in the video I posted above from items to use, to techniques you should check it out. I've been cleaning and polishing swords for over a decade and all my swords look like new even the ones that are over a decade old themselves.
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Post by theonebastardsword on Sept 6, 2022 18:59:08 GMT
It probably was leather dust, once I wiped I found no traces of it. I used just absorbant towel this time since my chamois isin't dry yet. Also did the pommel and scabbard. I noticed a few tiny spots on one side of the blade. More confident in my oiling this time. Im not too sure if im able to do a proper sharpening, don't have the tools yet either, specially on such an askew? Yet yesterday, the blade did damage my chamois slightly where it accidently rubbed across the blade. and is it okay to clean my blade while it's lying on it's side (held on two points)? Most vids I see clean while holding the sword and wash both side of the edge at once. for that spot of light rust, I rub the polish with the sponge and buff away with the chamois or absorbant wipe? Yea it's fine to clean each side individually, that's what I do. Actually any advice I'd give and write is clearly shown in the video I posted above from items to use, to techniques you should check it out. I've been cleaning and polishing swords for over a decade and all my swords look like new even the ones that are over a decade old themselves. Aye thanks alot, il just take some time to decide if I should get the stuff and try to resharpen my blade or get it returned for a new one or a new resharpening from Reliks, if they will redo it.
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Post by theonebastardsword on Sept 6, 2022 22:45:19 GMT
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